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Spain: Pro-secession parties in Catalonia win landmark vote
AP ^ | 09/27/2015 | By JOSEPH WILSON and ALAN CLENDENNING

Posted on 09/27/2015 5:31:36 PM PDT by Rusty0604

BARCELONA, Spain (AP) -- Pro-secession parties pushing for Spain's northeastern Catalonia region to break away and form a new Mediterranean nation won a landmark vote Sunday by capturing a regional parliamentary majority, setting up a possible showdown over independence with the central government in Madrid.

With 99 percent of the vote counted, the "Together for Yes" group of secessionists from across a broad political spectrum had 62 seats in the 135-member regional parliament.

Catalans are fiercely proud of their own distinct language and culture. Many who favor breaking away from Spain say their region, which represents nearly a fifth of Spain's economic output, pays too much in taxes and receives less than its fair share of government investment. Independence sentiment grew during Spain's near economic meltdown during the financial crisis.

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1 posted on 09/27/2015 5:31:36 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

What’s the next step??? We will be there in a few months....hope it’s a NEW country!!


2 posted on 09/27/2015 5:33:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: berdie

later


3 posted on 09/27/2015 5:36:14 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Ann Archy

It will be a fight with Spain, they will not want to lose tax revenue.


4 posted on 09/27/2015 5:36:16 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Well, good luck, I guess. I haven’t followed this closely, so I don’t know if the Catalans are even further left than the Spanish, or what.

I’d ask my friend from Spain, but I’m afraid she’d have another stroke.


5 posted on 09/27/2015 5:36:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Ann Archy
....hope it’s a NEW country!!

It's my understanding that this is not like the recent Scotland independence vote. It's more like as if a group of pro-independence Texans got elected to the Texas legislature.

6 posted on 09/27/2015 5:40:52 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Yes, that’s exactly what it’s like. The next step would be for the regional parliament, with its new pro-secession majority, to pass an ordinance of secession, and then ... well, I don’t know what then. Negotiations with the national government of Spain, I guess, resulting in ... who knows.


7 posted on 09/27/2015 5:42:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Leaning Right

RATS.


8 posted on 09/27/2015 5:42:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Tax-chick
The next step would be for the regional parliament, with its new pro-secession majority, to pass an ordinance of secession, and then ... well, I don’t know what then.

Which leads to an interesting observation. The West is all for self-determination. But only when it involves other countries, not their own.

9 posted on 09/27/2015 5:48:19 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Good point. I’ve been for Texas independence since the early 80s, myself.

If I were the new Catalan parliament, I’d be formulating a plan for independence that included transport, currency, mail, taxation, spending ... everything that you want to have in place before you propose full political autonomy. Establish a reasonable potential for economic self-sufficiency. (I don’t know how far they are from that.)

The comparison with Scotland is instructive: Scotland couldn’t support their welfare state for a year without subsidies from the rest of Great Britain.


10 posted on 09/27/2015 5:53:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Tax-chick

Did you sign the petition for it to be put on the republican ballot for the TX primary?


11 posted on 09/27/2015 6:00:11 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I lived in Texas until 1995. I live in North Carolina now.


12 posted on 09/27/2015 6:00:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Tax-chick

Oh, well you are welcome to come back!


13 posted on 09/27/2015 6:02:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

My two oldest children were born in Texas. If the Republic is declared, I expect to get in as the mother of native-born citizens. (I have a skill, too!) If Oklahoma is included, that brings us up to six anchor-children.


14 posted on 09/27/2015 6:05:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Tax-chick

They’re some anchor babies I like.


15 posted on 09/27/2015 6:11:01 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Anoreth is a gunner in the Coast Guard. William will graduate from UNC-Charlotte next spring with a degree in Marketing. My late father was an honorary Captain in the Texas Navy!


16 posted on 09/27/2015 6:13:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Tax-chick

I didn’t even know TX has a navy.


17 posted on 09/27/2015 6:27:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

It’s a symbolic navy, but (playing alternate-history) could be converted to real naval forces. Virginia didn’t have an army, until General Lee gave it one.

Consider this book, if you can find a copy. It’s rather dated, but not entirely irrelevant.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Ayes-Texas-Daniel-Cruz/dp/0345332822


18 posted on 09/27/2015 6:33:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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To: Tax-chick

Scotland Independence was better for England. It would be like Michigan cutting loose Wayne County and its neighboring leftist areas.


19 posted on 09/27/2015 6:57:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I agree, but for Scotland ...


20 posted on 09/27/2015 7:01:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There will be no conservative issue islands left to stand on if the red tide comes in."~S. Knish)
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