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Trump threatens to 'break' trade pact with Mexico, Canada
The Hill ^ | 09/26/2015 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 09/26/2015 6:11:19 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Donald Trump is calling the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) a "disaster" and vowing to renegotiate or break the deal if elected president.

"It's a disaster," Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley in an interview airing Sunday on "60 Minutes." "We will either renegotiate it or we will break it because you know every agreement has an end.  "Every agreement has to be fair. Every agreement has a defraud claim. We're being defrauded by all these countries," Trump continued.

Pressed on whether he supports free trade, Trump responded, "We need fair trade, not free trade. We need fair trade it's got to be fair."

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To: jospehm20
I care more about closing the border and getting rid of the illegals than anything else.

That's Trump's market. He'll do it by growing government. The real fight is shrinking government.

Again I'll ask you or any FReepr reading this, what has Trump done, not said or mentioned, but done about shrinking government down?

81 posted on 09/28/2015 4:15:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GIdget2004

Good it’s rigged anyways!

We were promised it would be the best thing for American since the invention of the Wheel.

After more than a decade we have record number of people not working and on food stamps.

The only jobs that come here are minimum wage B.S. jobs that use to belong to teenagers.

The U.S. got ROYALLY S*REWED with NAFTA, GATT, Etc...

EVERYONE KNOWS our country is on the wrong path.

We were the loan Super Power prior to this RIGGED, against us.... free for them only, agreements.


82 posted on 09/28/2015 4:36:31 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: LS

Right the U.S. still paying tariffs to these countries while they do not is B.S.

For people that do not understand this. This means our products are expensive in China (since businesses pass taxes on to consumers), and at the very same time there products are dirt cheap here.

Then compound that with the currency manipulation done by China. Then this makes it even worse.

Moreover, U.S. companies are forced to follow International rules about the environment that China, India and Mexico are exempt from.

Our government is encouraging companies to leave since they are making it not business friendly at all.

It’s a bad deal and America is getting bent over. Our country is going to h@ll with these RIGGED TRADE agreements.


83 posted on 09/28/2015 4:47:00 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

My view is that free trade starts when both parties are free to buy or sell a product. If laws/regulations/restrictions keep a country’s products out, that’s not free trade. Free trade will ALWAYS win, but only if it’s free. The British enforced free trade in the 1850s with their navy, opening up “unfree” ports and nations.


84 posted on 09/28/2015 5:50:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 1010RD

No, the real fight is preserving our culture and our country by getting our borders under control and getting rid of the law breakers illegally here. In my view that is the most important issue followed by reducing government size, cost and scope. Trump has the debts position on immigration and he has talked about cutting regulation. He also spoke of eliminating entire departments and agencies of the federal government. He even named a couple. He is the only candidate this cycle I have heard that from. Your “question” strikes me as intentionally obtuse. You know that Trump has never been in government so he has not been in a position to do anything to make government smaller. On the other hand, Trump has not been in a position to do anything to make it bigger either, unlike the public office holders who are running. Trump, Carson and Fiorina are the only republican candidates who can truthfully say they had no hand in growing government, perhaps that accounts for their status as the three highest polling republican candidates right now.


85 posted on 09/28/2015 6:52:25 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 1010RD
No, the real fight is preserving our culture and our country by getting our borders under control and getting rid of the law breakers illegally here. In my view that is the most important issue followed by reducing government size, cost and scope. Trump has the best position on immigration and he has talked about cutting regulation. He also spoke of eliminating entire departments and agencies of the federal government. He even named a couple. He is the only candidate this cycle I have heard that from. Your “question” strikes me as intentionally obtuse. You know that Trump has never been in government so he has not been in a position to do anything to make government smaller. On the other hand, Trump has not been in a position to do anything to make it bigger either, unlike the public office holders who are running. Trump, Carson and Fiorina are the only republican candidates who can truthfully say they had no hand in growing government, perhaps that accounts for their status as the three highest polling republican candidates right now.
86 posted on 09/28/2015 6:55:22 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Edgar3
Empty manufacturing facilities litter the landscape all across this country because of NAFTA, and the like.

But all that savings in labor cost due to off shoring was passed on to the consumer! /sarc

87 posted on 09/28/2015 6:58:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BobL
Bob,

For the 50th time most of the manufacturing done in the USA is by non union labor.

90% of the manufacturing is non union! 90%!

They have doctors that can treat short term memory loss....

88 posted on 09/28/2015 7:01:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert

Bull, BEFORE WWII we made over 95% of our manufactured goods. The USA was self sufficient.


89 posted on 09/28/2015 7:07:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GailA; GIdget2004
If Trump plans to be a EO Dictator like the Marxist In Chief I don’t want him.

There is one EO I do want to see...it's the one negating each and every one of the Marxist-In-Chief's!

90 posted on 09/28/2015 8:05:20 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: central_va; Admin Moderator

“Bob, For the 50th time most of the manufacturing done in the USA is by non union labor.

90% of the manufacturing is non union! 90%!

They have doctors that can treat short term memory loss....”

What the hell is wrong with you? Do you always engage in PERSONAL ATTACKS on people you disagree with? I think that I have at least as much right to espouse a CONSERVATIVE POSITION here (i.e., anti-union) as you have to espouse a non-conservative position (i.e., pro-union). I think the mods would agree that your SCREAMING without provocation is out of line for this site, at least.

As to your particular point - 10% may not be much to you, but it adds up to billions of dollars used against our side (or at least my side) and it provided enough money to drive my Congressman out of office (replaced by a Democrat), so it is relevant to point out the damage to conservatism done by unions.

So I’ll make you a deal, I’ll stop complaining about unions when that 10% number drops to 0% - then I will agree with you that they are no longer a problem. In the meantime, how about you learn to engage in civil discourse, rather than SCREAMING at people you disagree with.


91 posted on 09/28/2015 4:07:35 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
Union Derangement Syndrome.

So we will bleed to death via DE-industrialization because you have a zero tolerance for unions. What an idiotic position. See I can insult with it being specifically aimed at you. So you can't complain- I said the position was idiotic, not you. So don't cry.

92 posted on 09/28/2015 4:11:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; Admin Moderator

“Bob, For the 50th time...”
“...They have doctors that can treat short term memory loss”
“What an idiotic position.”

How about you EXPLAIN to us how there are NOT personal attacks. People are getting sick of your attitude here, and it’s probably a safe assumption that the mods are also.


93 posted on 09/28/2015 4:20:11 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL

Bob chill out.


94 posted on 09/28/2015 4:25:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Stop with the personal attacks then. We have DIFFERENT attitudes towards unions, accept that. You will NEVER change my position, not even through personal attacks. If it were up to me, I’d have their leaders brought up and jailed on RICO and put away for decades.

As to you, and I don’t really care to change what you think, I respect your position.


95 posted on 09/28/2015 4:29:28 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
We have DIFFERENT attitudes towards unions,

No not really. See that's the point, we both hate unions. I am not willing to kill the manufacturing base to take it to zero union participation. 90% union free is good enough. See the difference? You're posting unreasonable crap. I have to respond, it is just my nature.

Politics is war without bullets and a very rough game.

96 posted on 09/28/2015 4:32:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“I am not willing to kill the manufacturing base to take it to zero union participation.”

Can you please explain to us people who post “crap” exactly how not having unions will end manufacturing...you seem to keep repeating it over and over.


97 posted on 09/28/2015 4:39:02 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
Well Bob if we shut down EVERY factory here in the good ole USA, which is the way we are headed if the gloBULLists have their way, and ship the factories overseas then that would take union participation down to zero. Your dream. Right?


98 posted on 09/28/2015 4:43:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I don’t remember saying anything about shutting down factories here or globalism, the unions have done a GREAT JOB at that.

In fact I have a big problem with globalism, as I’ve posted here, because a country like China could simply cut off our supply of a few key components and within 6 months every tractor less than 20 years old would be inoperative because due to the inability to replace broken parts. Same for our military. I have a HUGE PROBLEM with globalism - we don’t need china in the critical path for literally everything that has electronics in it...which is just about everything.

I also see unions as what drove our manufacturing base out of this country and the BIGGEST PROBLEM in bringing it back. If you don’t believe me, talk to people like my brother that have had to SHUT DOWN large factories ONLY because of union intransigence - not because China was cheaper, but because Honda could make cars without a union and GM cannot.


99 posted on 09/28/2015 4:50:36 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
I also see unions as what drove our manufacturing base out of this country and the BIGGEST PROBLEM in bringing it back.

Talk to a few more southerners who have watched non-union manufacturing be utterly decimated, and you'll understand that a lack of unionization didn't keep those manufacturers here, either. If anything, the few union plants hung on a little longer.

100 posted on 09/28/2015 4:53:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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