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Cruz rebukes Carson for comments about Muslim president [Original title]
The Hill ^ | 9/21/15 | Mark Hensch

Posted on 09/21/2015 12:05:21 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

Edited on 09/21/2015 3:25:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Admin Mod note: Title changed at source to Cruz: Carson's stance on Muslim presidents unconstitutional

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is criticizing GOP rival Ben Carson for saying that a Muslim should not be president of the United States.

At a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sunday evening, Cruz said religious convictions should have no bearing on one’s fitness for the Oval Office.

“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am constitutionalist,” he said, according to The Des Moines Register.

“My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God,” the 2016 Republican White House hopeful added of President Obama. “What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bencarson; cantbepresident; carson; constitution; cruz; lyingheadlinealert; muslim; president
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To: PoloSec

My post is BIBLICALLY CORRECT! Deal with it. I LOVE JESUS - in word AND deed! I don’t allow a candidate to pull me away from what IS Biblically CORRECT. I don’t care what office he/she is running for.

SCRIPTURE is NEVER WRONG! I don’t put ANY human before JESUS - that includes Trump, Cruz, and Carson.

If you are a Christian, shame on you for going against God’s Holy Word for a candidate!!


121 posted on 09/21/2015 1:08:42 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: Lakeshark; C. Edmund Wright

I believe a case can be made for Islam being both a political system and a religious system that are side-by-side. To the extent that is true, and I think it is very true, Islam would be incompatible with the constitutional republic set up by our Founders. For the same reason, I would expect a communist to attempt to undermine that republic, I would expect a muslim also to do so.

Ataturk was the exception and not the rule in Islamic history. Otherwise, you see many caliphates, and all envisioning one caliphate.

This is significantly different than Christianity, whose founder said, “My kingdom is not of this world”, and one of whose leading apostles said that God has placed government there for the good of the people (assuming good government, of course)


122 posted on 09/21/2015 1:09:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Then why post this headline??


123 posted on 09/21/2015 1:10:32 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: conservativepoet

Your empty-headed reaction to the lie in the headline, and subsequent argumentative defense of the error is is the turnoff.

Take a class in reading comprehension.


124 posted on 09/21/2015 1:11:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: IC Ken

Damn Ted is going milk-toast power buddy on us. No mas numero uno


125 posted on 09/21/2015 1:11:53 PM PDT by mcshot (We have but our word and honor - 0 has 0.)
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To: Oatka
Would a Muslim president be sworn into office using the Bible or the Koran?

I suppose it would be up to him. Nothing in the Constitution requires a bible or any book whatsoever. Even the words "So help me God" are not required by the Constitution. The bible and "So help me God" are traditions but not requirements.

According to Article II Section I of the Constitution:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


126 posted on 09/21/2015 1:12:18 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

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I guess it is posted because FR rules require the correct copy of the original headline to post a thread.

That is to make the search engine work.


127 posted on 09/21/2015 1:13:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ok. Thanks.


128 posted on 09/21/2015 1:14:04 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Then why post this headline??

Two words: Media scumbag.
129 posted on 09/21/2015 1:14:13 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: BlatherNaut

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” Patrick Henry:


130 posted on 09/21/2015 1:14:26 PM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: mmichaels1970

I went further and read the Des Moines Register article from which the Hill article was derived. Cruz brought up the litmus test, not Carson and not me. He could have bit his tongue with "My view, listen. The president's faith is between him and God." or he could have used words like John Jay's to defend Carson. He did neither and I wish he had. Again, I say that as a Cruz advocate who would be pleased to vote for him. I'm just tired of our Christian heritage and freedoms taking a back seat to contemporary political correctness. The Constitution doesn't prevent witches from running for office either, but once upon a time in this nation they never would have remotely been given the opportunity.


131 posted on 09/21/2015 1:15:29 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: mcshot

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>> “Damn Ted is going milk-toast>>>” <<

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No, he isn’t.

Read the whole article, and forget the headline and the concern trolls here that seek to confuse people.
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132 posted on 09/21/2015 1:16:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlatherNaut

People are falling for the HEADLINE.


133 posted on 09/21/2015 1:16:20 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Not so far as that article in "The Hill" (no friend of either Cruz or Carson or you and me, no doubt) records the statement by Cruz.

Actually, even Carson doesn't state that it is "unconstitutional" for a Muslim to be President just that Islam based upon Shariah Law, is inconsistent with our Constitution and that he is opposed to one serving!

134 posted on 09/21/2015 1:16:42 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: mmichaels1970

They were probably state laws since such a federal law would probably be unconstitutional as you say. But it certainly didn’t hurt our country - it greatly helped and strengthened her.

Faith (spiritual/personal freedom) and political freedom go hand-in-hand which is probably the main reason we see political freedom slipping from our grasp today.


135 posted on 09/21/2015 1:17:24 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: editor-surveyor

I can feel you “got” my point.


136 posted on 09/21/2015 1:18:41 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Maris Crane
People are falling for the HEADLINE.

Mission accomplished.
137 posted on 09/21/2015 1:18:55 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: zerosix

Ok.


138 posted on 09/21/2015 1:19:15 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: mmichaels1970

Will we never learn??????


139 posted on 09/21/2015 1:20:04 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: editor-surveyor

“We cannot set religious tests for office in our laws.”

True enough. I don’t see where Carson ever suggested that we do.

By analogy, a self-described satan worshipper has the constitutional right to try to get his name on the ballot (assuming he meets all other qualifications other than his religious beliefs), but if one of his opponents expressed his opinion that a satan worshipper should not be ELECTED President that’s perfectly okay.

He might lose all the support from the satan worshippers (and their supporters) around the nation, but he might also gain the support of many voters who happen to agree with his stance. It’s still okay for him to express his opinion on the matter.

Absolutely nothing illegal or unconstitutional about it.


140 posted on 09/21/2015 1:20:27 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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