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Ben Carson says it is ‘foolish’ not to use already aborted babies’ tissues in experiments
https://www.lifesitenews.com ^ | August 14, 2015 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 09/15/2015 9:50:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

WASHINGTON, D.C., August 14, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson denies that he personally handled the remains of aborted children during a medical research project – while defending the use of aborted babies' cells for such research.

The blog of an OB/GYN who supports abortion on demand revealed that Dr. Carson took part in a 1992 experiment that used cells taken "from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation."

Thursday night, Dr. Carson denied that he was "in the laboratory actually doing the research, or retrieving fetal tissue."

"My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope," he said.

"The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study," he added.

Fetal tissues used by researchers can "come from a variety of different places, ectopic pregnancies, spontaneous abortions," as well as elective abortions.

"But," he said, "just because they get the fetal tissue [by abortion], does it mean they should throw it out? Of course they don’t."

"That’s how science is advanced," he said.

Carson further told CNN during a stop in Manchester, New Hampshire, "To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?"

However, many bioethicists - and the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church - would disagree that it is morally permissible to participate in any study using cells obtained by elective abortion...even if the aborted remains were supplied by others.

The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith wrote that medical professionals have the "duty to refuse to use such 'biological material' even when there is no close connection between the researcher and the actions of those who performed...the abortion."

"This duty springs from the necessity to remove oneself, within the area of one’s own research, from a gravely unjust legal situation and to affirm with clarity the value of human life." (Emphases in original.)

A declaration by the Pontifical Academy for Life asked, "Is it morally licit to use [embryonic stem] cells, and the differentiated cells obtained from them, which are supplied by other researchers or are commercially obtainable?"

"The answer is negative," it concluded.

Such an action would represent "a proximate material cooperation" in an immoral action.

The theologian Lucas Pollice wrote, "The use of stem cells for medical research that have been obtained from the deliberate and violent destruction of human life is also absolutely morally unacceptable."

Research related to the destruction of innocent human life, Pope Benedict XVI said during his pontificate, "is not truly at the service of humanity. In fact, this research advances through the suppression of human lives that are equal in dignity to the lives of other human individuals and to the lives of the researchers themselves."

Carson had previously upheld the use of RU-486, also condemned by pro-life and Roman Catholic ethicists. However, the retired neurosurgeon tied among likely Iowa caucus goers as the Republican most trusted on abortion, alongside Gov. Mike Huckabee.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; cantbepresident; election2016; plannedparenthood
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To: rikkir

Thanks for the clarification. I’m surprised lifesitenews would stoop to the level that the left is usually accused of.


41 posted on 09/15/2015 10:50:44 PM PDT by SteveinSATX
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To: NKP_Vet

I wont vote for the guy. His posit on amnesty and 2nd amendment is the other deal breaker. He needs to go away now.


42 posted on 09/15/2015 10:52:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Why am I not surprised?

I wonder how the “good” doctor would reply, if his mother, wife, daughter - or some other individual close to him - were murdered, and their remains taken (w/o permission) for use in experimental (Josep Mengele) “medicine.”

What Planned Parenthood has done, and continues to do, is ghoulish, unprincipled, immoral and unjust ... The fact that Carson rationalizes these actions, under pretense of acquiring some an imagined benefit, reveals the man for who he truly is. He can forget about the pro-life vote ... An Accomplice to murder is just as guilty as the one who committed the deed.

And, the “good” doctor needs to be schooled on this:

ine ways of being an accessory to another’s sin.
1.By Counsel
2.By Command
3.By Consent
4.By Concealment
5.By Defense of Evil Done
6.By Partaking
7.By Provocation
8.By Praise
9.By Silence

Accessory to another’s sin

We all have a responsibility for the sins of others. When we cooperate in them, we are an accessory to these sins, and this is possible in nine ways: By Counsel, By Command, By Consent, By Concealment, By Defense of Evil Done, By Partaking, By Provocation, By Praise, By Silence.

As practicing Catholics and Christians, we are not merely compelled to avoid sinning. We are compelled to avoid the occasion of sin, to avoid the temptation of sin and try to live by the example that Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, gave us.

It is not enough to avoid evil but we must also avoid the appearance of evil as well. It is not enough to merely avoid wrong-doing but to speak-out against any wrong- doing. We are all called to defend our faith and God’s laws.

If someone is aware of an evil committed, there are nine ways that we can end up being guilty by our participation, or omission, regarding another’s sin. Unfortunately, “Silence” in face of evil, is common, when we choose to be silent we allow sin to occur and in by doing so, we too sin.


43 posted on 09/15/2015 10:54:23 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: SteveinSATX

Yeah that saddens me as well.

As pro-lifers I agree we should be screening candidates closely, but Cruz, Carson, Jindal, and even Huck have been rock solid on this issue.


44 posted on 09/15/2015 10:55:34 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: NKP_Vet

Dr. Carson needs to step down....he will never win the presidency.k


45 posted on 09/15/2015 10:56:04 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: NKP_Vet

The problem is it creates a market for aborted fetuses and condones the process.


46 posted on 09/15/2015 11:00:50 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: NKP_Vet

“To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?”

I’ve heard that from atheists. It’s getting close to “the end justifies the means”.


47 posted on 09/15/2015 11:01:14 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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There might be a black market where Carson can purchase a few antique lamp shades from the 40s.

Carson is a moderate.


48 posted on 09/15/2015 11:03:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Not to forget it’s definitively depraved.


49 posted on 09/15/2015 11:04:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NKP_Vet
"To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?"

A good example of where Utilitarianism leads.

50 posted on 09/15/2015 11:22:31 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (We have had enough of immorality and the mockery of ethics, goodness, faith and honesty.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Sicko. Murdering someone and then using their bodies to experiment on is nothing if not Nazism.


51 posted on 09/15/2015 11:30:13 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("...for He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world." -1 John 4:4)
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To: NKP_Vet

So which tissue banks do Roman Catholic university medical schools and RC hospitals use? Do they have their own so they can keep a close eye on where and how the tissues are obtained? And what responsibility do they bear for employing doctors who may have been trained on tissue from other tissue banks or did research out of the church’s control- I ask because the last Catholic hospital I did work for had non-Catholic doctors on staff and by the looks of it they may not even be Christian or trained here?


52 posted on 09/15/2015 11:41:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NKP_Vet

Supposedly the evangelicals are dumping Trump for Carson because of Carson’s religious views. Guess they had better dump Carson now and go back to Trump. LOL


53 posted on 09/16/2015 12:22:26 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: NKP_Vet

Mengele in black face.


54 posted on 09/16/2015 12:26:40 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: Arthur McGowan

There was a Star Trek Voyager episode about that. Janeway refused to use data collected by a Nazi-like doctor. I’d say something about Hollywood hypocrisy, but Kate Mulgrew is the rare pro-life Democrat. And, Robert Beltran is a Christian, though I know nothing else about his views.


55 posted on 09/16/2015 12:33:50 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Fai Mao

Folks..”beware of wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing”!!! Ben Carson, IMHO, is the Trojan Horse or “Judas” sent by the Republican Establishment RINOs to take down and destroy Donald Trump!!! Trump, the enemy is among you...to stab you in the back!!!

Folks....all you had to do to see the failures of the Republican Establishment RINOs, was to watch the Senate activity, led by Senate leader, Mitch “Traitor” McConnell yesterday afternoon. Instead of immediately in invoking the “Nuclear Option” where a simple majority vote would rule...he handed Harry Reid another victory. The Republicans think they have the majority of votes in the Senate. They do.....but it is Harry Reid and his Democrat Senators that control the Senate!!! Both McConnell & Boehner are solidly in the pockets of Hary Reid, and, more importantly, POTUS, Barack Hussein (I love IRAN) Obama!!!


56 posted on 09/16/2015 12:42:53 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: NKP_Vet

Just like it was foolish not to make ALL the Jews’ skins into lampshades? Sorry, Dr Carson - but your lack of any apparent respect for human life or dignity is, well, appealing. Human beings are not commodities to be exploited or “used” - and especially when you’re telling about killing them for that use (or just conveniently killing them for any reason and then disassembling their parts for whatever uses you may have for them).


57 posted on 09/16/2015 12:54:30 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: vette6387
Well that’s probably because no one in the race has asked him pointedly about the remarks.

And you can be sure the media never will, in order to use Carson to challenge Trump as the GOPe-designated "outsider" who doesn't stand a chance but serves their purpose to give Trump voters an alternative.

58 posted on 09/16/2015 1:24:03 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: NKP_Vet

The inherent flaw is this is all designed to simply obtain the highest dollar value. It also seems easy enough to conclude delivering intact but dead babies increases risks to the women (just couldn’t call them moms). Was Mengele getting top dollar for his research. Just the simple fact that historically this has been done to POWs, undersirables, political enemies should show the depravity, done in the name of science. You can label it whatever makes you sleep at night doc.. But it’s murder and dissection for extreme profit.


59 posted on 09/16/2015 1:53:55 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: BwanaNdege; onyx; metmom

I guess it would be okay to use the body tissues of dead Holocaust Jews, too.

Wow. Carson is a freak.


60 posted on 09/16/2015 2:01:58 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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