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The Republican establishment is in DEEP trouble
Washington Post ^ | 9/15/15 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 09/15/2015 9:43:43 AM PDT by jimbo123

A majority of Republican registered voters want either Donald Trump or Ben Carson to be their party's 2016 presidential nominee, according to two new national polls from the Washington Post-ABC News and the New York Times-CBS News.

Let that sink in for a minute. Neither Trump, who made his name as a real estate mogul and reality star, nor Carson, a renowned pediatric neurosurgeon, have run for any office prior to their presidential candidacies. Both men have staked the entirety of their campaigns on the idea that they are the furthest thing possible from a traditional politician. And it is working for both of them. Big time.

While the rise of Trump tends to dominate the headlines, polls like these from WaPo and the NYT provide a reminder of the big picture here for the Republican party. And that big picture is simple: The GOP establishment is on the run, and there are few signs that its members have any sort of coherent strategy to deal with the massive uprising within its ranks.

It's not only that 53 percent of Republican voters (in the Post poll) or 50 percent of GOP voters (in the Times poll) say they are for either Trump or Carson. It's also how few Republican respondents in those same surveys say they are for the establishment choices. Jeb Bush, the man everyone assumed would be the race's front-runner, clocks in at 8 percent in the Post poll and 6 (!) percent in the Times poll. Scott Walker, the guy who was supposed to challenge Bush for the top spot, takes 2 percent in both the Times and Post polls. TWO percent.

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KEYWORDS: chamberofcommerce; gope; jebbush; karlrove; reincepriebus; rinos
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1 posted on 09/15/2015 9:43:43 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

And if voters in your party had any brains, Hillary would likewise be at 8%.


2 posted on 09/15/2015 9:44:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jimbo123

Maybe it is time to elect a person who has not held a public office. We have elected mostly those who have held public office and the result really hasn’t been that great.


3 posted on 09/15/2015 9:46:51 AM PDT by Parmy
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Kick out ALL establishment repubics!


4 posted on 09/15/2015 9:46:58 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hillary would likewise be at 8%

Give it a few weeks, that's where she's heading


5 posted on 09/15/2015 9:48:28 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: jimbo123

Not NEARLY deep enough. Deep enough would be a complete shunning by every American to the point they couldn’t buy their own food and had to scrounge for bark.


6 posted on 09/15/2015 9:51:37 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: canuck_conservative

>>Hillary would likewise be at 8%

Give it a few weeks, that’s where she’s heading<<

A general election with a socialist as the democratic candidate? It might be the first time since Walter Mondale that a candidate openly admitted to wanting higher taxes and bigger govt. Question is, does Sanders have a chance to win?


7 posted on 09/15/2015 9:55:02 AM PDT by BJ1
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Sadly I think Bernie does have a chance to win. This is not the electorate of the 1980’s. Lots of voters (particularly the young) now believe that government SHOULD do more and that “the rich” and “wealthy corporations” do NOT pay enough in taxes.

And when the Chamber of Commerce keeps pushing crony capitalist schemes like this trade deal and Ex-Im, their numbers grow.


8 posted on 09/15/2015 10:02:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Parmy

Some 95% of all the personal woe in this world is self-induced, in some manner or another.

Whether by bad judgment, or lapses of judgment altogether, or because of malice intent gone horribly wrong and ricocheted back to its source, the one crime that in inevitably punished throughout the Universe, is stupidity. This goes by many names, may it be Destiny, or Fate, or Kismet, or Karma. Maybe it is predetermined, maybe it is not, but there can be some pretty serious bite marks in the Gluteus Maximus.

The Republican Establishment has not earned the sobriquet “the Stupid Party” for nothing.


9 posted on 09/15/2015 10:02:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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We know that the RNC/GOP is owned by The Cheap Labor Express. They have been paid to betray the citizens.

Of course they are in deep trouble.


10 posted on 09/15/2015 10:03:30 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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The democrat establishment got caught in the same trap as the Republican establishment. Sanders was put up as a foil to make Hillary look moderate. Unlike the Republicans, they didn’t have anyone surface to take on the establishment, and now they are stuck with the hard left Washington insider.


11 posted on 09/15/2015 10:03:48 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: BJ1
does Sanders have a chance to win?

No, but by then the nominee will probably be Biden or Warren. Fortunately, they're both losers too.

Don't see how Hillary can pull out of this (political) death-spiral.


12 posted on 09/15/2015 10:05:46 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Obama was basically a newcomer also.


13 posted on 09/15/2015 10:10:47 AM PDT by fruser1
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Not deep enough trouble.

For the effete elites, trouble is running out of the proper wine pairing with dinner.


14 posted on 09/15/2015 10:11:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Parmy
Maybe it is time to elect a person who has not held a public office. We have elected mostly those who have held public office and the result really hasn’t been that great.

Bingo. Centuries ago, we didn't have a permanent political class. We actually had people elected to office who didn't live their whole life in the political realm. They were part of the real world interacting with others in the real world. Somewhere along the way the political classes morphed to where we now have 2nd and 3rd generation children of politicians vying for office where their primary qualification is that they were born to the political class.

15 posted on 09/15/2015 10:15:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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***Neither Trump, who made his name as a real estate mogul and reality star, nor Carson, a renowned pediatric neurosurgeon, have run for any office prior to their presidential candidacies.***

Hmmm.

Just like

Washington
Eisenhower
Grant
Hoover
Taylor


16 posted on 09/15/2015 10:16:24 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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They BETRAYED us after the midterms!

What do they expect???


17 posted on 09/15/2015 10:24:11 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Norm Lenhart
Deep enough would be a complete shunning by every American to the point they couldn’t buy their own food and had to scrounge for bark.

Norm, I love how you think.

18 posted on 09/15/2015 10:27:58 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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Add up the anti-establishment candidates, and you get way into the 60% range.

WE HATE YOU JOHN BONER AND MITCH MCTURTLE!


19 posted on 09/15/2015 10:28:41 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (RINOs EARNED TRUMP! I prefer Cruz, but someone has to kick their A$$!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Biden and Warren losers? The question is who will the RNC put up against them. Remember Romney, McCain and Dole?


20 posted on 09/15/2015 10:28:54 AM PDT by BJ1
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