Posted on 09/04/2015 7:06:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
basically no christian could ever earn a living is what you’re saying because government go after you in the public and private sector
I want a fighter.
But I can understand why no Christian would want to serve what has become a depraved sewer of a nation.
I feel for Kim Davis but this is not the battle we should be having (in my not so humble opinion)
Otherwise,the problems is the lefties think the two queer’s, who are not even from Kentucky btw, are Rosa Park.
The only reason these two queers can claim DISCRIMINATION is because the government is involved in issuing “marriage” cirtificates..
Take the GOVERNMENT out of the marriage business and there is no DISCRIMINATION.
wasn’t it St Paul who wrote, we are in the world, not of the world?
For the left, this is a pipe dream come true. They salivate over the idea of punishing people who will not comply with their utopian fantasies. That is the reason they never were much concerned with the slaughters in the USSR and PRC, or the Cambodian killing fields—those millions of people murdered did not support the leftist utopia.
American leftists have often expressed desires to “punish” people in the same way. The persecution of Kim Davis is a step in that direction. Of course they are giddy about it; their dream of killing off those who do not support them is within reach now.
I thought Kim Davis stopped issuing marriage certificates to avoid having her name affixed to the farce legal marriage has become. (my words, not hers). Thus, according to your logic, she SHOULD be the rallying case.
RE: I feel for Kim Davis but this is not the battle we should be having
If fighting for one’s religious beliefs, one’s right to religious liberty, one’s right to act according to one’s conscience ( a right enshrined in the very FIRST amendment of our constitution ) is not worth having, what is?
Dear Maggie, the USSC ruling did not change any laws. The USSC’s ruling does attempt to change the age-old definition of marriage.
I keep looking for the word “marriage” in the US Constitution. Can’t find it. I know it must be in there somewhere. Probaby near the other words I can’t find: “abortion” and “education”.
Indeed, if this isn’t worth figthing for, then nothing is really worth fighting for. You’ve accepted your shackles. Game over.
The Supreme Judge and author of marriage has spoken and said Mr. Vincent does not HAVE a "fiance".
Our rights of conscience we never submitted,we could not submit.We are answerable for them to our God! Thomas Jefferson Notes on the State of Virginia Query XVII
Perversion wins ONLY when we bend over for the Sodomites.
Otherwise, i stand by Kim Davis, i understand the argument as it is now, and it is sick, and likely unlawful, she is in jail.
However, the only reason we are in this battle in the first place because the government should not be issuing marriage cirtificates..PERIOD
Until the Federal Government is not allowed to insert itself in every matter we will endlessly have people hauled off to jail. The over reaching Federal Government is the problem here. If you take away the Federal Government via preasure on State via funding/defunding, to issue marriage cirtificates then you render the Federal Government powerless in this matter.
Is that not what we want? You know “limited government”
She should not be issuing marriage cirtificates because there should be no government involved in marriage.
Did you catch the news. Those two queers were issued their “marrage cirtificates” anyhow. People cheered because, in their twisted minds, the two queers were the one’s being persecuted.
NO government marriage cirtificate = no gay fake marriage.
Think back to when the issue started. Back then, the call was for civil unions and the right to live their private lives privately. Now it's become an out of control, legally sanctioned (although hardly ever voted on), in-your-face movement by a whole lot of spoiled brats who don't give a damn about the rights about anyone except themselves and their trendy friends.
The People, state by state, were overwhelmingly against “gay marriage” The Federal Government went State by State strong arming our “representatives” Who cracked obviously.
We wanted to preserve one word. ONE WORD!
I’ll play “make believe” for a few minutes with my kids. But when a pair of adults wants to pretend that something like this is a marriage, it’s time to shut them down.
I understand what you are saying, I agree the best solution given the current situation and state of moral decline the country is in is to get the state out of the marriage business. It used to be that having the state regulate/endorse marriage served a purpose by supporting the family unit and therefore our society. That is no longer the case as the word “marriage” has been rendered meaningless through our laws and courts. This started long ago with the introduction of “no fault” divorce.
However, that doesn’t mean you can’t fight both battles. Fight the religious freedom battle on one hand and argue for getting marriage out of the hands of the state on the other. In the meantime- denominations are going to have to take a long hard look at what they mean by marriage and should set up a system of their own to regulate who is considered eligible for marriage.
The Catholic Church has been doing this already for a long, long time. While we have the scandal of “too easy anullments” that is an indictment of the people running the annulment process- not the process itself. Unknown to most, if you appeal to the Roman Rota instead of the local diocese, marriages are upheld 90% of the time.
Regardless, other denominations could set up a similar system for marriages or converts. Of course the criteria would not be the same as the Catholic Church but it would give them some control over the process.
What would be interesting to see is if people would grade the marriages differently- (e.g. “You two are Southern Baptist married, that’s a pretty good commitment our Church can recognize that, vs. Oh, you two were married in the Unitarian Church, yeah, we are going to have to investigate and you are going to have to go through our marriage prep courses and have a convalidation ceremony.
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