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1 posted on 09/01/2015 10:09:34 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
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Not to mention that the Church sends nobody to Hell.


2 posted on 09/01/2015 10:15:52 AM PDT by Kanrok
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Wow I never new that Catholic Priests sent anyone to hell, do the clergy of other religions also have this power?


3 posted on 09/01/2015 10:16:02 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Priests don’t send anyone to Hell, people send themselves. And all who repent are forgiven. Who is this writer?


4 posted on 09/01/2015 10:17:21 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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This is a confusing piece. It is not logical nor coherent

The story is that, one, God’s forgiveness is invinite. Nothing we do is above it. In the Catholic Church, we have to want forgiveness and ask for it

In the Catholic Church, there is no judgement of people of other faiths. They do what they do.

The pope came out and said that those within the traditionalist ‘sect’ who reject Vatican II teachings, can ease up and just go to confession with a priest if they seek forgiveness for having had an abortion, like any other Catholic can do

Rachel’s Vinyard is a very well respected society which was founded by a post abortive woman who found a healthy way for other post abortive parents to gain healing and communion wit the Church through ordinary, sanctioned and catechetical means

There is certainly not a demand that only the pope can gain forgiveness, as far as I am aware, though I am not involved with any of these groups nor Rachel’s Vinyard. It is just something I recommend to people who know people troubled by being post abortive

It’s hard to imagine any massive population among Pius tenthers being post abortive

But I do not believe that anyone running a Rachel’s Vinyard (legitimately) tells people the need th pope in order to get forgiveness

If anyone cares to flame me over confession, leave me alone and look it up in the catechism. Or in the bible, the gospel. Anyone can seek forgiveness directly from God but Jesus gives us a good means through priests to him


6 posted on 09/01/2015 10:24:06 AM PDT by stanne
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Abortion is grounds for automatic excommunication. So the answer to the question is when they truly repent their sins and they are absolved.


7 posted on 09/01/2015 10:24:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Prior to this declaration, absolution for abortion was reserved to the Pope.

No, it was reserved to the local bishop, who could delegate to his priests, either case-by-case, or more generally.

There are excommunicable offenses whose pardon is reserved to the Pope, but abortion isn't one of them.

8 posted on 09/01/2015 10:25:34 AM PDT by Campion
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The Pope is extending mercy by making it easier to get absolution. Repentance is still required, but for some poor woman in a third-world country, getting absolution from the Pope is totally impractical. Now it can be obtained from the local priest.

I just hope that making absolution easier doesn't make sinning easier.

9 posted on 09/01/2015 10:26:20 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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I’m not a Catholic. I pray directly to God for forgiveness of my sins. You know, that whole Lord’s Prayer thing. I don’t see the point of a middleman.


10 posted on 09/01/2015 10:27:34 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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People send themselves to Hell. There is a way of escape if only they would take it.


11 posted on 09/01/2015 10:33:42 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Before this non-Catholic Pope, there was an automatic excommunication attached to abortion, and to any act helping produce it. Only the Pope was able to release the excommunication.

(The article wrongly says that only the Pope was able to forgive abortion. There are no reserved sins. An excommunication must be lifted before absolution can be given in confession. Some excommunications could be lifted only by the Pope.)

I have to conclude that the excommunication can now be lifted through a simple confession to a priest. If that’s the case, then for all practical purposes there is no excommunication.

This is the Pope’s answer to the recent revelations about planned parenthood. Tell the mothers that it’s all right, that they can just go to confession and it’ll be all better.


12 posted on 09/01/2015 10:35:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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” Prior to this declaration, only the Pope himself could pardon the sin of abortion.”

I do not recall reading that anywhere in the Bible.


14 posted on 09/01/2015 10:39:10 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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It’s good to know that even in the age of a secular Pope; Lucifer’s little minions are actively seeking their own retribution.

The price of our sins was paid for on the cross. The truth of repentance is known to the Lord and it is his justice that of the church which is final.


15 posted on 09/01/2015 10:48:12 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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* “Sins which the priest has no authority to absolve are called reserved sins. Absolution from these sins can be obtained only from the bishop, and sometimes only from the Pope, or by his special permission. “*

Incorrect, only GOD has the ability to absolve sins.
AL Gore, the vicar of Gaia on the Earth, has the ability to absolve companies that produce carbon through his Carbon Credit absolutions for carbon “sins”, but that's as close as a human can come to absolving sin.

This pope is the biggest sinner of all recent popes. Nearly everything he says is a Socialist lie. Anyone who promotes the Climate Change Hoax to billions of people is a liar.

17 posted on 09/01/2015 10:53:42 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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That's nothin! Take a look what I just found on MarketWatch.com about The POPE!!!
28 posted on 09/01/2015 11:34:50 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Hey, lets leap to support someone rich and strong enough who will DO SOMETHING, (even if its wrong))
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terrible MSM spin.

Abortion, like Murder, is so serious that it requires confession to a bishops to say the person is forgiven by Christ. This is because such a serious sin often requires more than a quick pat on the back, but counseling and penance to emphasize you are truly sorry and not just bullshitting the priest (excuse my language).

However, with the huge number of abortions, letting the local priest do this would be a good pastoral idea.

The bad news is that boyfriends will now tell their girlfriends to abort the kid, because hey, all you need to do is talk to Father X, a well known modernist priest, and hey, no problem with God mad at you for killing your kid.


49 posted on 09/01/2015 6:28:40 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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