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Experts Astounded by Trump Polls
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | August 31, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/31/2015 5:51:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: Okay, a little detail here in Iowa. This is a Monmouth University telephone poll August 27th through the 30th of 405 Iowans likely to attend the Hawkeye Cauci.

The margin of error is +/- 4.9 points. So margin of error is +/- 5, and it's astounding. Ben Carson and Donald Trump are tied in this poll, 23% each. "Most Iowa Republicans prefer someone without a traditional political pedigree, according to the analysis at Monmouth University poll. This is now the first time since July 26th that poll in first four nominating states has shown Trump without a nominal lead." This is the first one. Carly Fiorina is in third place at 10%. So you have three people who are perceived to be outside, way outside the standard political universe.

Trump, of course, is nowhere near it: A white guy paying his own way. Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, an African-American. Diversity. Carly Fiorina? Well, she does have some ties to the Republican establishment in that she was, I think, part of the McCain team back in 2008. And then after Fiorina, Ted Cruz at 9%, Scott Walker at 7%, and that's a dramatic falloff for Scott Walker, down to seven. Jeb Bush at the number he seems to own in every poll: 5%. John Kasich, who the media thought won the Republican debate back in August...

Well, it still is August. It would be August 6 or whenever it was. John Kasich and Rubio at 4%, Rand Paul at 3%, Huckabee and Santorum at 2%. I don't see Christie's name here. By the way, did you see Christie's idea for illegal immigration? Track 'em like we track FedEx packages. Except it wasn't his idea. The media forgot. Mr. Newt first proposed than back in 2012 as sort of a lighthearted, jocular thing. I was reading my tech blogs yesterday in a brief time-out from show prep.

The technical blogs are more and more becoming show prep, and they had the story on Christie because FedEx and tracking is considered high-tech. So their headline was: "New Jersey Man Suggests Tracking Illegals as We Track FedEx." New Jersey man. They wouldn't even put "governor" or "Christie" in the headline on this blog. So, anyway, big news there. Now, Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post. A lot of people are reacting to all the polls in Iowa.

This Iowa poll shows just how amazing Trump's rise has been. This is a different one. This is a Des Moines Register-Bloomberg Politics of Iowa poll. The real story, according to Cillizza, is contained deep in the poll. In May, when the Des Moines Register last polled, 27% of likely Iowa Hawkeye Cauci goers viewed Trump favorably. Sixty-three percent in the Des Moines Register poll regarded Trump unfavorably back in May. His favorable number now is 61%. His unfavorable 35%.

This is almost an exact reversal, and they can't remember ever having seen this before. Cillizza here at the Washington Post says, "Numbers just don't reverse themselves like that in the space of a few months (or ever). Especially when the politician in question is totally known by the electorate." I'll tell you what. The theory that I have heard that the establishment and Republican Party has about how Trump's gonna fade away is slowly but surely blowing up on them. Let me repeat that theory for you.

The GOP establishment theory is that Trump's name recognition is 99% (so he's got no ground to gain) and his favorable-unfavorable is already established, and you can't change that dramatically. Certainly not in a period of months. So Trump has peaked. Their theory was that whatever Trump's numbers in the polling data are peak, and whatever his approval numbers are have peaked. Meanwhile, the other candidates are nowhere near 99% name recognition. The closest might be Jeb, and he's still not there.

So they have all kinds of room for growth, and they have all kinds of opportunity to change their favorable-unfavorable numbers, whereas Trump is stuck. Well, when this Des Moines Register poll came out that showed Trump did a total reversal from 63 unfavorable to 61 favorable, they are shell-shocked. They have never seen it. They don't know how to explain it. It's not possible. Nobody can turn their unfavorable around, especially that big, 63 unfavorable back in May to 61% favorable?

That's a 60-point-some-odd shift. No number's ever done that before. They even admit in this poll they have never, ever seen this before. Numbers just don't reverse themselves like that in a space of a few months or ever, especially when the politician in question is totally known by the electorate. Once you are both totally known and broadly disliked -- 63% Trump back in May -- you're doomed.

One hundred times out of 100 times you are doomed. You cannot recover from that, except Trump has. Here's Cillizza: "In the almost 20 years -- gulp -- I have spent following politics closer than close, I've never seen anything like the total reversal in how Trump is perceived by Republican voters. It is, quite literally, unprecedented." You know what else bugs 'em about it? A long, long-made point by me.

They haven't had anything to do with it. Trump goes over their heads. Trump reversing his favorables and unfavorables is totally on Trump. The media hasn't helped. If anything, the media has been trying to cement unfavorability numbers on Trump. If anything, the media has been trashing and tarring and feathering and ripping him. That makes it, as far as media people are concerned, even more earth-shattering. That this guy, without their help, in fact, with them working against him, has totally reversed in a matter of five months, what people think of him.

They think it isn't possible, A, and especially it isn't possible, B, without them helping. And it's not just the media that are perplexed. The Republican wizards of smart who concocted this theory on how Trump had peaked and it was just a matter of being patient and wait and he'll blow himself up because he can't get anymore popular than whatever he is now. That was their theory. He's too well known. He's too well known now. There's no way he can change. And yet he has.

There are three different stories on this. TheHill.com: "Iowa Pollster: We have seen everything with Trump," and we have seen things we have never seen before. Trump's favorability rating in Iowa is higher than Jeb's. It's an unprecedented turnaround. You know, look, I'll be the first to admit, I try not to get too hung up on polls, particularly polls this far out. But this is not a horse race poll on who's gonna win, who's gonna get the nomination, who's gonna run, what's the outcome of the election gonna be. This is strictly a poll on what people think of the candidates favorably or unfavorably.

And here is another version of the same story in TheHill.com. We've seen everything. He gets seven people with higher unfavorable ratings than he has, including Jeb Bush. He led, Trump led the unfavorables 63% in May, and now there are seven people with higher unfavorable numbers than Trump has, including Jeb.


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To: Kaslin

What has them all astounded is, Trump knows how to win.


41 posted on 08/31/2015 7:59:54 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Kaslin

If it’s legit for Trump to continue to play the “maybe third party” card what would be wrong with the other candidates to saying that they’ve reconsidered the situation and are thinking about running an independent candidacy of their own?


42 posted on 08/31/2015 8:02:50 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: kvanbrunt2

lol


43 posted on 08/31/2015 8:32:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: skeeter; Osage Orange

[Didn’t he star in Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen?]

Yes, apparently he still does.


44 posted on 08/31/2015 8:33:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: skeeter

[Odd, I don’t see that Lindsey Graham on there anywhere. Anybody remember who he is?]

Linda has taken a short time out....heat flashes, you know.


45 posted on 08/31/2015 8:38:26 PM PDT by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: kempster

‘Expert’: has-been squirt under pressure


46 posted on 08/31/2015 8:47:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: cookcounty

“It’s understandable that Trump would praise his sister. But when candidates praise relatives who have served in public office—whether they’re members of the Bush, Paul, Clinton, or Trump families—voters are entitled to keep those relatives’ records in mind.”

I also keep in mind that, IMO, Trump is just now examining many of these issues. Hitherto he has just let them go by as matters of little or no interest. Now that he is interested and at risk of encountering accurate information, I look for a number of right-abouts.


47 posted on 08/31/2015 9:15:46 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: GraceG
Lindsey Graham...Anybody remember who he is?

What...the queer?

48 posted on 08/31/2015 9:23:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: cookcounty

He praised his older sister who will be 80 by Inauguration Day. Story was posted at least five times here.


49 posted on 08/31/2015 10:20:26 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: cookcounty
I hope you like Trump’s desire to push pro-abortion judges.
It's his sister you narrow minded jerk.
50 posted on 08/31/2015 10:27:44 PM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: GraceG

Lyndsey Graham thinks he has a chance because the lib media loves him. But the lib media and their followers would never vote for him.


51 posted on 09/01/2015 3:31:29 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Kaslin
Experts Astounded by Trump Polls

So typical.

They are astounded an awful lot by a lot of things!

52 posted on 09/01/2015 4:54:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

One hundred times out of 100 times you are doomed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZRDUO1wGQ


53 posted on 09/01/2015 4:58:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boycott
Yeah, I know he’s smart and a nice guy but that’s about it.

That's good enough for me!

54 posted on 09/01/2015 4:59:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
Americans understand that the media/government partnership is self serving and self sustaining. Both sides of the coin offer dishonest, calculated and manipulative interfaces with the “little people” via scripted telepromter aided talking points. Both the media and the government are hyper reactive to politically correct values.

Donal Trump speaks from his heart and doesn't bow down the the idol of political correctness.

55 posted on 09/01/2015 7:00:57 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Kaslin

“Astounded” should be “confounded” in the headline and article, IMO.


56 posted on 09/01/2015 7:03:54 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: cookcounty

Wrong? Nothing.

Implausible? Absolutely.

Trump doesn’t require party backing to mount a credible campaign. He also isn’t beholden to the kakistocracy.

The rest? They fail on one side or the other.


57 posted on 09/01/2015 7:09:26 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: MortMan; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy; WilliamRobert
“Astounded” should be “confounded” in the headline and article, IMO.

It's the MORMONs; MortMan; that are confounded...



The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

58 posted on 09/01/2015 10:22:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I have no idea what your post has to do with the subject of the thread.


59 posted on 09/01/2015 10:25:20 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: MortMan; Elsie

I am both astounded and confounded at the Mormonizationing of this thread.


60 posted on 09/01/2015 1:55:10 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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