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1 posted on 08/31/2015 11:33:14 AM PDT by Red Steel
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I n hisbook, “America the Beautiful,” Dr. Carson writes on page 102, “I believe we have taken the moral low road on this issue [i.e., illegal aliens]. Some segments of our economy would virtually collapse without d deport many individuals who are simply seeking a better life for themselthese undocumented workers—we all know that—yet we continue to harass anves and their families. Is there a way to apply logic to this issue and arrive at an intelligent solution?” (Ben Carson Has Presidential Ambitions, But Is Soft On Illegal Aliens; Jerry McConnell; Canada Free Press; 2/4/14)


2 posted on 08/31/2015 11:34:34 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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They Monmouth have Fiorina at 10% in Iowa ... uh ...No.


5 posted on 08/31/2015 11:38:08 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Doesn’t surprise me given it’s six months out.


6 posted on 08/31/2015 11:38:55 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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ABC news wouldn’t play with the numbers to make Trump appear 10 points lower than he is would they? hmmmm. Yes they would.

This is an ABC news poll.The OAN poll has Trump at 40% nationwide so this Iowa poll seems fake to me


7 posted on 08/31/2015 11:40:29 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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Don’t get too excited ABC, this is only 1 state.

Trump isn’t collapsing yet.


8 posted on 08/31/2015 11:40:59 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Note that you can Google poll results that tell you what you want to hear.
Iowa Poll: Trump blazes to lead; Carson quietly rises

9 posted on 08/31/2015 11:41:33 AM PDT by Amendment10
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ABC news wouldn’t play with the numbers to make Trump appear 10 points lower than he is would they? hmmmm. Yes they would.

This is an ABC news poll.The OAN poll has Trump at 40% nationwide so this Iowa poll seems fake to me

or a university poll . still fake


10 posted on 08/31/2015 11:41:52 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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I think it tells you everything you need to know when you see that the three people in the lead are all non-politicians.

People think that by avoiding politicians, they’ll get a fresh start on government, and Trump is the most popular of them at the moment mainly because he’s a non-politician who is also a celebrity and a showman. When people get tired of the bombast, Carson and Fiorina have a chance of moving up even more.

However, I’m not sure a non-politician, especially one who doesn’t seem to have any strong history of political opinions, is going to be able to do much. People mention Reagan, but he had a long history of conservative positions and political involvement and had twice been governor of the state that has a nation-level economy.

That said, I can certainly see why people want nothing to do with politicians!


13 posted on 08/31/2015 11:46:46 AM PDT by livius
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Sorry I’m not buying this one. Carson is not tied with Trump. I would be very surprised since every other poll has Trump ahead.


20 posted on 08/31/2015 11:51:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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In July, Walker 22 Trump 13 Carson 8 Cruz 7 Bush 7 Fiorina 3
now - Trump 23, Carson 23, Fiorina 10, Cruz 9, Walker 7, Bush 5
Change - Carson +15, Trump +10, Walker -15 Fiorina +7, Bush -2, Cruz +2.

If you look at the trend, both Trump, Carson, Fiorina are all gaining If you add the top four, that is 65% - nearly 2/3 anti-establishment...
22 posted on 08/31/2015 11:52:59 AM PDT by BigEdLB (We need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' on Iranian bombing runs. It is not vituous)
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Slowly but surely black conservatives who are politicaly aware to such machinations are comming forth accepting the reality that Obama created this hyphenation of Americans using race for his own political purposes. Which I’ve been posting here in FR’s for years was employed as a political tactic to defer any constitutional questioning action of the 1st branch by the 2nd branch of government.

Here is what they’re saying
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3323814/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3324514/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3325168/posts

The sad part is we do have a black candidate now in second place in current polling running for POTUS who has yet to speakout on this matter. Until he will he does not deserve consideration to be our POTUS.


28 posted on 08/31/2015 12:03:03 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless vSlowly but surely enting no one reads.)
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Dr Carson will never be able as President to clean out the system that King Obama had created. He is too soft and does not have the fire that Trump has. The voters better get up to speed in their thinking. We need a bull in the White House or nothing will change.
31 posted on 08/31/2015 12:06:45 PM PDT by Logical me
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I heard that Jeb! Is behind this. I think the GOPe can control Dr. Carson!


43 posted on 08/31/2015 12:29:19 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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GOPe is behind this. Push up one outsider to get rid of Trump, then take Carson down.

Jeb won’t get it, but after they eliminate Trump they can easily manage the rest of the conservative candidates and put in a more compliant GOPe candidate. There are enough spares running!!!


47 posted on 08/31/2015 12:36:26 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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In the absence of game-changing situation, a sudden 15 point shift of any kind that quickly really makes me question a poll’s veracity.


51 posted on 08/31/2015 12:42:20 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Panic in Trumpland.


53 posted on 08/31/2015 1:02:54 PM PDT by rickyrikardo
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In a field of 17, the three non-politicians get 56% (average of 16 % each), the 14 politicians get 44% (average of 3.2% each) .

And they are playing the politicians own game.


61 posted on 08/31/2015 5:00:42 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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