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A Response to Free Republic Trump Critics
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Posted on 08/31/2015 12:43:37 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall

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To: catfish1957

So in your world it is impossible to know if a candidate is registered as a Republican or a Democrat. That’s not the real world. But given all I’ve seen lately, it’s unsurprising.


461 posted on 09/01/2015 5:43:56 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Go ahead and drink the koolaid bub. Ted Cruz is way more conservative than that Trojan Horse of a candidate you support. Trump changes party affiliation and positions so often, how do you know he won't veer left after being elected?

As far as I am concerned he is the PT Barnum of politics, and can not be trusted.

462 posted on 09/01/2015 5:49:02 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

RINO fans please go away.


463 posted on 09/01/2015 5:51:12 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: catfish1957

In your world, Trump is everything you just said plus currently, as we speak, a registered Democrat? I.e.: he is present tense, in real time, a registered Democrat?


464 posted on 09/01/2015 5:56:35 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“You cannot reason with them. They believe if you say anything positive about a candidate they don’t support it is “worship”. That is deranged. You cannot reason with the deranged.”

Oh, I know that. But I’m from the days when a rousing, spirited debate was enjoyable; not an excuse for name calling and character aspersions. Those days are clearly gone. In my high school debating days, any and all opinions could be roundly and vehemently opposed without profanity or personal attacks. Debate was “reasoning” together about a subject. As you say, there is none of that anymore.


465 posted on 09/01/2015 5:58:14 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: NKP_Vet

Perhaps you can instigate a purge, and have supporters of any candidate other than Cruz banned.

Then ban the mention of Cruz, since he said he was/is “a big fan of Donald Trump”.


466 posted on 09/01/2015 6:00:54 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Would you really vote for someone who sent Hillary Clinton money?


467 posted on 09/01/2015 6:03:02 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Fantasywriter
In your world, Trump is everything you just said plus currently, as we speak, a registered Democrat? I.e.: he is present tense, in real time, a registered Democrat?

Since you are too lazy, I looked it up for you....

Here is Trump's political affiliation:

Republican (????-1999)

Reform Party (1999–2001)

Democratic (2001–09)

Republican (2009-11)

Independent (2011–12)

Republican (2012-Present)

And BTW, Ihave been registered GOP continuously since 1975.

468 posted on 09/01/2015 6:13:38 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

‘Oh, I know that. But I’m from the days when a rousing, spirited debate was enjoyable; not an excuse for name calling and character aspersions. Those days are clearly gone. In my high school debating days, any and all opinions could be roundly and vehemently opposed without profanity or personal attacks. Debate was “reasoning” together about a subject. As you say, there is none of that anymore.’

Agreed those days are gone. Liberals haven’t been able to debate rationally for decades. So sad to see SOME conservatives going the same route.

Conservatives are even following the hard-Leftist lead of altering the very meaning of the words we speak. When you hear liberal leftists take a time-honored word such as ‘justice,’ and warp and pervert it into the mirror opposite, that is bad enough. [In Leftist-speak, ‘justice’ now means ‘whites, police and Christians always wrong/bad; Obama’s people, illegals, favored minorities and Muslims always right/good.’]

But now we have a word sacred to Christendom, ‘worship,’ being warped and twisted by SOME conservatives. It has been stripped of all the awe, wonder and reverence of its God-oriented meaning, and now means, “mentioning Trump’s height and/or golf game.’

It’s incredible.


469 posted on 09/01/2015 6:14:11 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: JediJones
" Cruz has said whoever stays will never have a path to citizenship."

Another reason not to trust Cruz. He knows better then most that the courts in the US will never allow tens of millions living here legally to be condemned to second class status. The courts would rule it unconstitutional to be allowed to live here but not be allowed citizenship. But even if the courts did allow it, the Rats once in control of government (and they will at some point in time be in control) would overturn such a law in a New Your second. Cruz is completely full of Bull S with he legalize but no pathway to citizenship.

470 posted on 09/01/2015 6:16:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: catfish1957

I would not vote for a candidate who supports Hillary at the present time, in an ongoing fashion. A candidate who has done a 180 on Hillary would receive my consideration.


471 posted on 09/01/2015 6:17:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: catfish1957

According to your chart, it is a lie/smear to say that Trump is right now, today, a Democrat.


472 posted on 09/01/2015 6:19:14 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Conservatives are even following the hard-Leftist lead of altering the very meaning of the words we speak.

Do you realize that this and most the rest of that post are a regurgitating GOP(e) talking points. This kind of thinking gave us McCain and Romney. I will keep my principles, and you can keep whatever.

473 posted on 09/01/2015 6:20:13 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Fantasywriter

Check my earlier posts, I never said he was presently a dim. I said he changed his affiliations as often as a chameleon changes colors. That point is TRUE. Keep spewing GOP(e) stuff bub, you are marking plenty of friends here. /s


474 posted on 09/01/2015 6:22:34 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Fantasywriter
I would not vote for a candidate who supports Hillary at the present time, in an ongoing fashion. A candidate who has done a 180 on Hillary would receive my consideration.

Then you are just as fickle as trump. Why are you even here at FR? We are principled conservatives, not bandwagoners.

475 posted on 09/01/2015 6:24:58 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: WayneS
"Illegal immigration is not the only issue, and if you think it is then you are what is known as a low information voter." = "No its' not and you are stupid"

I do believe I paraphrased your (non) argument rather nicely.

476 posted on 09/01/2015 6:30:03 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: catfish1957

Another poster called Trump a current/real time Dem. You jumped in and sided with that poster. That is why I originally put the question to you directly. You could have ansered no, which would have ended the discussion quickly and honestly. But you, not me, dragged it out and make a long, entailed mess of it.


477 posted on 09/01/2015 6:34:09 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: catfish1957

“Conservatives are even following the hard-Leftist lead of altering the very meaning of the words we speak.”

‘Do you realize that this and most the rest of that post are a regurgitating GOP(e) talking points.’

That is a nonsensical reply.


478 posted on 09/01/2015 6:36:30 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: catfish1957

‘Why are you even here at FR? We are principled conservatives, not bandwagoners.’

Why not start your own site and ban me? Or maybe get me banned from this one.

Would you, a principled conservative, vote for a candidate who praises Trump much more than I ever have, who believes that what Trump says is true, and who is a big fan of Trump?


479 posted on 09/01/2015 6:40:44 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
BS. I answered honestly. Trump has changed affiliation so many times, who knows. He technically could run for GOP ticket and had not officially blown off the (I) position.

Do you make it a habit of falsely calling people liars?

480 posted on 09/01/2015 6:41:40 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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