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Pope Francis sends letter praising gay children's book
The Guardian ^ | Aug. 28, 2015 | Rosie Scammell

Posted on 08/28/2015 8:38:05 AM PDT by FR_addict

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To: Mount Athos
Mt. Athos, you didn't have to tel me you aren't a Catholic. That has been quite obvious to me.

In the letter of response Monsignor Peter B. Wells wrote that "His Holiness is grateful for the delicate gesture and for the sentiments that I have suggested," and "calls for a more profitable activity in the service of the young generations and the spread of authentic human values and Christians', imparting the apostolic blessing."

Francis' Vatican seems blind to the contradiction of sending the author of homosexual books encouragement to "go ahead," along with an exhortation to spread authentic human and Christian values. Here again we see the modernist confusion: what is affirmed in one place is denied in another.

The press office claimed the letter to Francesca Pardi, in response to a letter from her to the Pope after Venice Mayor Luigi Brugnaro banned 'gay' books from the city's schools, was meant to remain private, something which “unfortunately did not happen.”

Il Giornale, however, notes that Pardi received a warm, encouraging letter from Francis’ Vatican. Yet the Mayor of Venice who banned these books, received no such letter of congratulations.

Mayor Brugnaro, Il Giornale notes, is “too much in line with Tradition.”

161 posted on 08/30/2015 9:36:41 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mount Athos

“The review of the “banned books” by Venice’s mayor sparked outrage among gay and human rights groups, with sometimes Venice resident Elton John calling Brugnaro “boorishly bigoted.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vatican-mixed-up-in-italys-banned-books-battle/

“He (Pope Francis) is a compassionate, loving man who wants everybody to be included in the love of God,” he (Elton John) said of Pope Francis. “It is formidable what he is trying to do against many, many people in the church that opposes. He is courageous and he is fearless, and that’s what we need in the world today… Make him a saint already, ok?”, Elton John.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2014/10/29/elton-john-pope-francis-is-my-hero-make-him-a-saint-already/


162 posted on 08/30/2015 9:54:50 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mount Athos
You’ve made some bad assumptions here.

Not one statement in post 156 is an assumption. They are all factual. And you cannot refute the Truth. Oh, I forgot, you're not Roman Catholic.

163 posted on 08/30/2015 10:31:27 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: firebrand

They don’t need to leave the Catholic Church. The just need to ignore the current Pope.


164 posted on 08/30/2015 10:33:10 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

It’s amazing and funny that a few out of context words from a generic form letter response to a gift can get you to say so many untrue things.

You are not being very discerning of the truth in this case.


165 posted on 08/30/2015 10:40:38 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: FR_addict
Pope Francis sends letter praising child molester children's book
166 posted on 08/30/2015 10:47:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: ebb tide

I believe most of your misstatements are innocent due to being misled by fraudulent news articles with lying titles and inaccurate characterizations.

For example, how would you know that the author of the books withdrew the claim that the letter from the vatican said “go ahead”.

But I noticed you posted a fraudulent quote from the pope, freepers called you out on it repeatedly but you made no correction and did not respond.

So there again you have shown a lack of discernment when it comes to the truth, and are going about spreading misinformation.

Here is the phony false quote you posted in message #42:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3330333/posts

http://truthorfictioncom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PopeFrancisQuote-thumbnail-e1427820093264.png

The amazing thing is that you posted a picture of a quote from an article explaining that the quote was not true at all.

Here’s the link to the article you got the pic from:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/pope-francis-says-atheists-go-to-heaven/


167 posted on 08/30/2015 10:55:51 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

“For example, how would you know that the author of the books withdrew the claim that the letter from the vatican said “go ahead”.”

Because the actual letter said “go ahead”. Can you not read?


168 posted on 08/30/2015 11:34:03 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: FR_addict; NYer
Did the pope just endorse a gay children’s book? Of course not, says Vatican

In a press release that Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi sent to LifeSiteNews on Friday, the vice speaker of the Vatican, Ciro Benedettini, made clear that the friendly reply letter to the author in no way approves of attitudes or positions that are contrary to Catholic teaching and the Gospels.

The Vatican's statement also says that in the original letter from the secretariat of state Wells merely "acknowledged receipt" of the materials sent by Pardi, and also made clear that the letter was private and not meant for publication.

"In no way does a letter from the Secretary of State intend to endorse behaviors and teachings not in keeping with the Gospel," says the statement, decrying the "manipulation" of the letter.

Benedettini said the blessing of the pope at the end of the letter was meant to be for the author herself, and not to affirm positions concerning gender theory that are contrary to the Church's teaching. Using the letter to this end is erroneous, he said.

Pope Francis has strongly condemned the notion of “gender theory” on numerous occasions, saying that it is an “error of the human mind that leads to so much confusion.”

169 posted on 08/30/2015 2:36:59 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora; ebb tide

The problem with Pope Francis is that his off-the-cuff style lends itself to great inconsistency.


170 posted on 08/30/2015 3:13:22 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
That may be--when he's speaking to individuals and concrete situations he's not making systematic statements, in contrast to the style of Pope Benedict; but he's been consistent on opposing the homosexual agenda, and in this case, this letter sounds like it was a routine acknowledgment of receipt rather than one of his off-the-cuff statements, and the left-wing Guardian spun it into something bigger than it was.
171 posted on 08/30/2015 10:02:06 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

That’s what holds them back from leaving. One of them has said as much.


172 posted on 08/30/2015 10:08:42 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: SkyPilot; BillyBoy

Benedict was blackmailed into resigning?


173 posted on 08/31/2015 8:57:32 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

I truly believe so, yes.


174 posted on 08/31/2015 4:53:32 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Impy; SkyPilot
>> Benedict was blackmailed into resigning? <<

"Obviously", he is resigning because he is "gravely ill" and "will likely pass away within a few weeks" and I'm a "fool" if I can't tell how "sickly" he's been lately.

So said numerous freepers, none of whom have apologized to me or admitted they were wrong with the "Benedict XVI is dying" explanation.

175 posted on 08/31/2015 5:50:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SkyPilot

But over what?


176 posted on 09/01/2015 12:44:44 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
Several theories. The Italian and European press covered this much better than our lame media.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry

http://mic.com/articles/27254/pope-benedict-gay-blackmail-allegation-may-be-more-than-just-speculation

Did a Gay Blackmail Scandal Bring Down Pope Benedict? The pope's abrupt retirement gets stranger. Now, an Italian newspaper alleges corruption at the Vatican.

177 posted on 09/01/2015 2:55:01 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Impy
Personally, I don't think Benedict was forced out because other Vatical officials were homosexual. Why would he resign for that? Just fire them.

I think he was right in the middle of that sin with his own depraved acts. Now we have Jorge Francis, who by his own words, actions, and now raw grab for global power (Agenda 23 announcement this month at the UN, call for New World Government, etc) is exposed as a tool of the Evil One.

178 posted on 09/01/2015 2:59:28 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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