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FIRST TROOPS LAND IN JAPAN FROM 48 PLANES TO PREPARE WAY FOR VAST INVASION THURSDAY (8/28/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/28/45 | Frank L. Kluckhohn, W.H. Lawrence, Julius Ochs Adler, George E. Jones, Tillman Durdin

Posted on 08/28/2015 4:39:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: colorado tanker

If you could take that picture back in time and show it to a typical American during the years 1942-1944 he or she would probably react with stunned disbelief.


21 posted on 08/28/2015 11:47:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I was thinking that same thing.


22 posted on 08/28/2015 11:49:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The laws of nature and nature's God are the only true basis for just human government and liberty.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Watching the cooperation of the Japanese as events unfold, it occurs to me none of that could have happened without our having left the Emperor in place. He was the only one that virtually the entire people would obey.


23 posted on 08/28/2015 11:53:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The laws of nature and nature's God are the only true basis for just human government and liberty.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree.


24 posted on 08/28/2015 12:41:49 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Not apropos of anything in particular, I happened upon this episode of Popeye just now:

Popeye The Sailor 113 - Scrap the Japs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCFZ6nh9djY


25 posted on 08/28/2015 12:48:35 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: EternalVigilance

Other things helped us.
The Japanese people trusted the Americans. They knew we would be soft on them.
They were also sick of war by that time.
They were hungry.


26 posted on 08/28/2015 12:49:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: henkster

Had to be more than a little scary out there on the pointy end of the stick on August 28, 1945 though, since they didn’t have our luxury of hindsight.


27 posted on 08/28/2015 12:50:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The laws of nature and nature's God are the only true basis for just human government and liberty.)
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To: henkster

A question for you. If we had kept the Enterprise as a museum ship would we have been able to name another active ship the Enterprise?


28 posted on 08/28/2015 1:14:28 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: AppyPappy

I don’t think they trusted us at first, until after they’d actually dealt with us.

They had been propagandized against us so thoroughly before the end that civilians would jump off cliffs rather than fall into our hands.

They were shocked when our troops treated them well.


29 posted on 08/28/2015 1:15:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The laws of nature and nature's God are the only true basis for just human government and liberty.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yes. The ships are officially stricken from the Navy list when made a museum, and the name is available again. For example, there is an active duty Virginia class nuclear submarine even though the battleship is a museum in Wilmington.

As a practical matter, though, the Big E was such a famous ship that they might not have named a replacement even though they could.


30 posted on 08/28/2015 1:24:21 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: EternalVigilance

They expected us to eat their babies. We found sushi more to our liking.


31 posted on 08/28/2015 1:25:34 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: henkster; PeterPrinciple

Sorry, poor editing on my tablet. I was referring to 2 versions of the USS North Carolina.


32 posted on 08/28/2015 1:27:10 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; EternalVigilance; PeterPrinciple; henkster
Back when the History Channel still did history, they did a series following the Enterprise and going through its biggest battles. As I recall, it was pretty good. I found it available on Amazon.

She certainly earned the title the fightingest carrier.

33 posted on 08/28/2015 2:47:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

No question about it, Homer. I think it would have been easier for them to believe that one day Germany and the U.S. would be allies, but Japan? Never.


34 posted on 08/28/2015 2:49:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
You're right about the History Channel. Discovery Channel is much better.

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Come on! It's history! Look, it has Nazis in it!

Actually, back in the day, the The History Channel website had an on line forum, of which the World War 2 page was quite active. There were some very knowledgeable contributors, and the discussions were enlightening. Many of the essays I've posted here were originally written for THC. Unfortunately, a lot of riff-raff moved in, the moderators didn't ban them and the neighborhood went to hell. You know how it goes.

I'm so much happier that FR is a gated community.

35 posted on 08/28/2015 3:26:03 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: henkster

36 posted on 08/28/2015 3:39:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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Major league baseball commissioner Brooklyn Dodgers President and General Manager Branch Rickey and future baseball great Jackie Robinson meet and discuss the difficulties Robinson, a black athlete, will face in major league baseball.

or

Major league baseball commissioner Branch Rickey Happy Chandler and future baseball great Jackie Robinson meet and discuss the difficulties Robinson, a black athlete, will face in major league baseball.

37 posted on 08/28/2015 3:44:04 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: henkster
Unfortunately, a lot of riff-raff moved in, the moderators didn't ban them and the neighborhood went to hell. You know how it goes. I'm so much happier that FR is a gated community.

So, you don't believe you're "riff-raff"? Shall we vote? But I'm on your side, whichever way it goes.

38 posted on 08/28/2015 3:49:09 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Of course I’m riff-raff. But I’m very upscale riff-raff.

Most places I go only let me in because of Mrs. henkster.


39 posted on 08/28/2015 3:53:06 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: henkster

Like Ross Perot, eh? Married way above your pay-grade? Me, too.


40 posted on 08/28/2015 3:58:28 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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