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Pollsters dumbfounded by Trump
The Hill ^ | August 27, 2015 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 08/27/2015 6:51:25 AM PDT by sevinufnine

Polling experts agree on one thing when it comes to Donald Trump’s presidential run: They’ve never seen anything like it. His dominance of the Republican presidential race is forcing experienced political hands to question whether everything they know about winning the White House is wrong.

While political scientists and other experts continue to insist Trump will not win the Republican nomination, he’s converted at least one high-profile skeptic.

GOP pollster Frank Luntz had dismissed Trump from the start, and declared after the first presidential debate that his campaign was doomed.

But after convening a focus group Monday evening where Trump supporters showed an unflappable allegiance, Luntz changed his tune.

“This is real. I’m having trouble processing,” he said, according to Time.

“I want to put the Republican leadership behind this mirror and let them see. They need to wake up. They don’t realize how the grassroots have abandoned them,” he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; polls; trump
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To: sevinufnine

The pollsters, and the rest of the establishment, have not come to grips that the very field on which they have played for 50+ years has been plowed under and replaced by another one by the people of this country. Those who have governed us have failed in every important way to serve this country and its people for over 50 years, and it finally has people so frustrated that it is coming back to bite them in the arse.

Whatever form of government a nation has, the governors need the consent of the governed. You end up with 5% or 10% of the people that simply won’t listen to you and will do everything possible to undermine you, and you are toast. That is what has happened here.

Simply put, politics is too important to be left to the politicians.


41 posted on 08/27/2015 8:38:26 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: sevinufnine
I agree. We all know Trump is no Reagan, and he's not Herbert Hoover and he's no . . . He's Trump. (Wait, there's a Weird Al Song in there someplace, "He's Trump! He's Trump! He's Trump! He's totally ahead!")

But, he has much of the same anti-establishment appeal that RR had. The GOPe hated RR. They thought he was a war monger. They all tried to get him to drop out of the 76 race.

But the biggest difference is that Reagan appealed on three main things: 1) he wasn't Carter, and he promised to reverse Carterism; 2) he promised to fix the economy (pretty vague, except tax cuts), and 3) he promised to build up America's military. Again, almost no specifics.

Trump's BIGGEST appeal is that he is not a politician, not from DC, and has no fingerprints on ANYTHING that has happened in the last 10 years. Only Carson and Fiorina can say that.

His three big things are 1) fix immigration the right way, building a wall and deporting; 2) fix the economy (again, vague on the specifics), and 3) restore American greatness internationally.

Any fair person will see the pattern: in each case it's confidence. Does the candidate convince others he has the ability AND THE WILL do actually change things? Cruz has the will, but I don't think he has the ability; don't know that Carson has the will or the ability; Fiorina has both, but doesn't convince large enough numbers that she does.

42 posted on 08/27/2015 8:44:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Starboard

“The Republican “leadership” has been stabbing the backs of conservatives for too long, and now they’re surprised by the strength of Trump’s candidacy? The GOP is truly clueless. People are revolting against the GOP and they refuse to see it.”

Amen! I commented you because it needs to be said again. Americans are waking up to the fact that the DC Political Machine (DCPM) does not care about America as a country, that they’re in politics because of a lust for power and to enrich themselves, that they hate the average, hard-working, family-oriented voter.

The DCPM has given their marching orders to their presstitues to take down trump in the media. I’m not buying it. Trump is not just a reality TV star, he builds businesses, employees people, and you don’t get to be a billionaire by being stupid.

I would like to get behind a candidate like George Washington but we live in a fallen age where Trump is the man for these times.


43 posted on 08/27/2015 10:24:27 AM PDT by WMarshal (“A man’s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box, and the cartridge" - F. Douglas)
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To: Aria
Right, those guys are “academe's” graduated from the best schools and stuff...but Trump even tho a graduate of Wharton business school actually built buildings and things that you can see rather than just pontificate about. I read an article some time ago about his butler of many years. He did not speak to him in a condescending way and neither does he when he speaks to us...its a CONNECTION...and that is why people are attracted to him.
Freegards
LEX
44 posted on 08/27/2015 11:06:01 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: sevinufnine

bkmk


45 posted on 08/27/2015 6:26:36 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: WMarshal

we live in a fallen age

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That is a profound statement about where we are now. Lots of people just don’t see it but its the truth.


46 posted on 08/29/2015 2:36:32 PM PDT by Starboard
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