Posted on 08/23/2015 10:01:32 AM PDT by AU72
The signing of a Munich-class agreement with Iran that hands it more than it ever hoped to pull off represents a shocking, craven American capitulation to an apocalyptic crazy state: a North Korea with oil. Nothing in Western history remotely approaches it, not even Neville Chamberlain's storied appeasement of another antisemitic negotiating partner. But it also augurs the possibility of a nuclear war coming far sooner than one could have imagined under conventional wisdom worst-case scenarios. Following the US's betrayal of Israel and its de facto detente with Iran, we cannot expect Israel to copy longstanding US doctrines of no-first-nuclear-use and preferences for conventional-weapons-only war plans. After all, both were premised (especially after the USSR's 1991 collapse) on decades of US nuclear and conventional supremacy. If there ever were an unassailable case for a small, frighteningly vulnerable nation to pre-emptively use nuclear weapons to shock, economically paralyze, and decapitate am enemy sworn to its destruction, Israel has arrived at that circumstance. Why? Because Israel has no choice, given the radical new alignment against it that now includes the US, given reported Obama threats in 2014 to shoot down Israeli attack planes, his disclosure of Israel's nuclear secrets and its Central Asian strike-force recovery bases, and above all his agreement to help Iran protect its enrichment facilities from terrorists and cyberwarfare – i.e., from the very special-operations and cyber forces that Israel would use in desperate attempts to halt Iran's bomb. Thus Israel is being forced, more rapidly and irreversibly than we appreciate, into a bet-the-nation decision where it has only one forceful, game-changing choice -- early nuclear pre-emption – to wrest back control of its survival and to dictate the aftermath of such a survival strike.
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Your entire post (#19) and it’s bottom line, re-inforces -to me at least- that Israel must strike 1st! (and soon)
Obama would rat out Israel over anything... he is NOT a friend of Israel...
"True, but keep in mind that it only takes one nuke (even a crude one) to ruin your whole day."
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Netanyahu fully realizes this and I'd imagine it's all the more reason that Israel must strike 1st.
I suspect Israel has not struck because the Sultan has threatened to shoot down Israeli planes if they launch against Iran. Unofficial US spokesfolks have also suggested, Since Bush II, that the USA may, if necessary, invade Israel to rectify the persecution of the Palestinians. Bush II’s friendship with and support for Israel was not unequivocal, either.
Obama obligated the US to protect Iran’s sites, which means Isreal will have to go through the US first.
I read that too. But I have trouble believing that a US officer would actually follow such an order. Target an Israeli plane, then pull the trigger. I just can't process that.
Remember the scene from the Sand Pebbles where the US ship's captain ordered his crew to fire on the Chinese civilians? Everyone's guns "jammed". I would hope that the same would happen here.
But I suppose I'm being way too optimistic.
If the "deal" is not stopped then everything Rouhani says will then be irrelevant. The bridge will have been burned. He and his Iran should visualize themselves as shattered glass. I presume that the densely populated civilian areas in Iran might be spared, but then again, they will be at the mercy of the prevailing winds which should, if Israel times it correctly, will be blowing Southeastwards.
Unthinkable? Not to those of us who have read Ezekiel 38-39.
And not to award him another Nobel Peace Prize.
Israel needs to start a worldwide rebellion against the corrupt UN and all of its cronies. The time has arrived.
Israel needs to nuke Iran without telling any one or else obammy will spill the beans
Cause he is a mooselimb and a closet fag.
What is in it for John Boehner and Mitch McConnell?
Is it money?
Oh, joy.
There are too many possibilities to contemplate an Israeli nuclear first strike, & 99% are bad outcomes. Just one nuclear volley from Russia would obliterate Israel in 30 minutes or less. Who’s gonna object after Israel launches first? Obama, Europe, China? Even if you object, how do you respond? Armageddon?
Israel’s best hope might be to wait out the end of Obama’s term & pray for a strong US president who will cancel this nonsense treaty & come down hard on Iran.
I don’t understand Europe’s Russia’s quick acceptance of a nuclear armed Iran. Do they think they are not on the list of Iran’s Satans? Who will defend them if Obama wont?
Before Iran can use a nuclear weapon, it must first test it, usually several times. Making it operational takes more testing - launches & detonations. Such testing is easy to detect & monitor. This will be the last chance Israel & the World has to stop this madness.
So there is time but very little of it, maybe 2 years or more.
Who is elected our next President will probably determine the outcome of this stalemate. Let’s not forget that Iran released the hostages the same day Reagan took office.
Unfortunately, the one and only Ronald Reagan died 11 years ago.
Same as ever. They get to stay and play in the big sand box.
A conventional invasion with a nuclear defense?
I have another weapon Israel could use and would be more likely to use Jericho ICBMS carrying 1 or 2 ton solid depleted uranium or tungsten warheads. 1 one ton solid warhead causes 08.25% of a Kiloton (ie 82.5 tons) of damage focused on a small area. Think of it is a precision guided meteorite. A few of those would cause considerable damage to any facility. Follow with a few 2000lb precision guided bombs.
Bttt for your excellent post # 39
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