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Retire the Myths; Women Are Ready for Combat
NYT ^ | 8-20-15 | Anu Bhagwati

Posted on 08/22/2015 4:25:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog

The defense secretary has an incredible opportunity to usher in the end of legalized sex discrimination in the military.

As tens of thousands of women have proved over 13 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, women are capable of the combat skills necessary to fight alongside their male counterparts. The question now is whether to give women the opportunity to compete for coveted combat arms assignments, such as infantry and special forces.

Since the Pentagon formally rescinded the combat exclusion policy in 2013, well over 100 women have successfully passed the Marine Corps’ enlisted infantry school and two female officers will graduate from the Army’s elite Ranger School this week — debunking three long-held cultural myths: that women don’t want these jobs, they are mentally and physically too weak for these jobs, and training standards have to be lowered for women to do these jobs.

But as of yet, none of these female warriors can legally be assigned to infantry or other combat arms billets for which they have proved themselves qualified. It’s like surviving the trials of medical school and being told you can’t be a doctor.

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter needs to ensure the following happens going forward if he wants integration efforts to create a stronger fighting force:

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anubhagwati; demagogicparty; memebuilding; militaryservice; misogyny; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; war; womenincombat
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To: smokingfrog
"...a Red Army unit held an impromptu audition at a hill they were defending,..."

That's pretty funny.


41 posted on 08/22/2015 5:12:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: BenLurkin

No. Just three more dead women.


42 posted on 08/22/2015 5:15:03 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: smokingfrog
Retire the Myths; Women Are Ready for Combat

Are they ready for high-and-tight haircuts?

I believe in equality. Shave your heads, ladies.

43 posted on 08/22/2015 5:17:30 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: smokingfrog

The underlying assumption being that the country has no serious enemies - so why fight seriously?


44 posted on 08/22/2015 5:20:12 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: smokingfrog

Of course it’s about money. Money and power and destroying the U.S. Military.

You have a group of females who think that they are doing their gender a favor by pushing to get into Combat Arms. They have been told by the enemies of the U.S. Military that women are being mistreated because most of the generals are Combat Arms. They have to be. At their level they are moving huge Infantry, Armor and Cavalry units. They need to come with the experience of leading smaller Combat Arms units.

So these females believe that males are deliberately excluding them from Combat Arms units so that males can have the general slots.

And nothing anyone can say or do will change their feelings.

And any male arguing against them is automatically a bigot.

So, give them ALL of it.

How many females have you heard stand up and say this is a bad idea? Very few.

But it’s females that will have to put an end to this. Right now, it’s all good for females. They pick and choose where they want things. Give it ALL to them.

Make it mandatory that every female between the ages of 18 and 55 register with the Selective Service with the clear understanding that they can be drafted into the Infantry and take part in close combat.

You’ve come a long way, baby. No need for the hair salon after your head gets blown off.

Welcome to the Infantry!


45 posted on 08/22/2015 5:23:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: smokingfrog

Just out of curiosity, why weren’t the myths retired over the 40 yrs or so that the left has been pushing this PC stupiditt? (And when are the myths in the NFL, NBA, NHL, PGA and Baseball going to be retired?)


46 posted on 08/22/2015 5:24:07 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: stormer

Yep, the Soviets were down to non-shaving boys and cane-borne old men.

During WWII, the US had roughly 10% of the entire population in uniform; that would be 20% of all males.

An even higher percentage of military-age males.

Toward the end, we were drafting men with flat feet, half-blind, half-deaf.

Roger Young was a good example.

But we never sent women to fight.

Nor should we have.


47 posted on 08/22/2015 5:27:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: smokingfrog

Somebody needs to write a new stanza for Tommy:

“An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees”


48 posted on 08/22/2015 5:28:28 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I didn’t see anything in the article about lowered standards, but you can tell they were setting this up.


49 posted on 08/22/2015 5:28:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe if one was Ronda Rousey.


50 posted on 08/22/2015 5:31:08 PM PDT by paintriot (On the Conservative Coast.)
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To: smokingfrog; stormer; All

Lyudmila was exceptional. She was definitely located on the far-right tail of the female bell-curve.

The two females who just “graduated” from Ranger School are probably also on the far-right tail; though, not as far-right as Lyudmila was.

The problem is that the supporters of “Women-in-Conbat” are comparing far-right-tail women to middle-of-the-bell-curve men.

Let’s compare the two new Ranger grads to the best of the male Ranger grads. Then what? No comparison?

Let’s also compare women from the middle of the female bell-curve to men from the middle of the male bell-curve. The middle of the male bell-curve being the location of most of the draftees in WWII and Vietnam.

Again, no comparison.

How far will the hierarchy go in terms of resources, time and the surreptitious loosening of standards to create the first female Navy Seal, or the first female Marine Raider?

And what will they prove?


51 posted on 08/22/2015 5:31:44 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: DuncanWaring
A society that sends its women to fight before it sends its non-shaving boys and cane-borne old men deserves to be destroyed, and will be by societies that do not make that mistake.

What you said.

52 posted on 08/22/2015 5:33:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: smokingfrog
The clock is counting down, the Leftist emperor with no clothes has only 516 days left and Leftists are pushing hard in all the victimhood special interest areas that they want to impose as much change in as possible.

In just 516 days, reality will come knocking AND it is my hope that it is a Conservative & Constitutional reality AND that there will be much moonbat barking and pajama boy gnashing of teeth as each and every Leftist victory imposed upon America with the islamist homosexual manboy's pen and phone is set aside and flushed down the toilet.

53 posted on 08/22/2015 5:34:05 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: stormer
From Wikipedia concerning Russian women in combat in WWII:

"Many women were unprepared for the harsh living conditions and tense gender relations they faced in combat units. Others were recruited despite the fact that they were ill, pregnant, unqualified, or unfit for military service. Some female soldiers struggled to adapt to military life, leading them to resort to extreme measures such as desertion or suicide."

54 posted on 08/22/2015 5:37:42 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The teachers will be The Gods of the Copybook Headings, as always.


55 posted on 08/22/2015 5:40:13 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (My hope for America died 11-06-12.)
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To: MarvinStinson

“Anu Bhagwati, a former Marine Corps Captain...”

She needs to re-up so she can pass Ranger School and join the Regiment. See how long it takes her to tap out or get fragged for being a danger to others.


56 posted on 08/22/2015 5:42:14 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: CondorFlight

In promoting the two females into ranger status we all viewed the video of the training, they barely pulled them selves up with the rope


57 posted on 08/22/2015 5:42:50 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: pluvmantelo

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of man,
There are only four things certain since social progress began...


58 posted on 08/22/2015 5:42:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: smokingfrog

Best thing in the world would be an American bad ass military woman wasting a couple of moosie puke then posting it on anything,
Bragging about it.
Heaven?
Virgins?
I don’t think so.
Israeli bad ass ladies have been doing just such a thing for decades.


59 posted on 08/22/2015 5:45:50 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: ChicagahAl

What they will prove is how many rapes it takes to kill their brand new femanazi.


60 posted on 08/22/2015 5:48:03 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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