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Appeals court rules two bikers were jailed with sufficient probable cause.
Waco Tribune ^ | 8/21/2015 | OLIVIA MESSER

Posted on 08/21/2015 4:42:00 PM PDT by mac_truck

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To: TexasGator
-- The 'relocation to Waco' is what really set off the Cossacks. It was the ultimate 'in your face' act by the Bandidos. --

Waco as a "Cossacks Stronghold" or "Cossacks Turf" is not supported by the evidence, other than police narrative, which appears to be stuff made up out of whole cloth.

John Wilson, president of the Waco chapter of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club, told the judge at his bond reduction hearing that there were 6 members of the Waco chapter of Cossacks.
More bikers in court for bond-reduction hearings - WacoTrib.com - June 12, 2015

Cossacks are not among the clubs listed at the United Clubs of Waco website.

There is inferential evidence that the police encouraged Cossacks to show up at the Twin Peaks meeting.

He [Wilson] said Waco police contacted him at his cycle shop before the Twin Peaks incident and asked if he could try to reach an accord with the rival Bandidos gang because of incidents between the groups in the months prior. He said he did not expect trouble that day.
[from the WacoTrib article linked above]
201 posted on 08/26/2015 5:37:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“There is inferential evidence that the police encouraged Cossacks to show up at the Twin Peaks meeting.”

LOL.

“Wilson stated that they knew trouble was possible between the two groups and that they (Cossacks) were prepared,” the document states.


202 posted on 08/26/2015 8:14:39 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt

“Cossacks are not among the clubs listed at the United Clubs of Waco website.”

Of course not. Cossacks didn’t pay extortion money to the Bandidos.


203 posted on 08/26/2015 8:16:33 AM PDT by TexasGator
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This ...

A Waco police commander talked to Legends owner John Wilson, the president of the local Cossacks chapter, and saw an assault rifle inside the business.

"Wilson stated that they knew trouble was possible between the two groups and that they (Cossacks) were prepared," the document states.

Vehicle forfeiture documents reveal new details about deadly biker shootout - WacoTrib.com - June 17, 2015

... does not contradict or refute this ...

He [Wilson] said Waco police contacted him at his cycle shop before the Twin Peaks incident and asked if he could try to reach an accord with the rival Bandidos gang because of incidents between the groups in the months prior. He said he did not expect trouble that day.
More bikers in court for bond-reduction hearings - WacoTrib.com - June 12, 2015
204 posted on 08/26/2015 8:28:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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” He said he did not expect trouble that day.”

Really!


The bad blood between the two gangs had its first eruption in the murder late last year of a Cossack ally from the Ghost Riders by ten Bandidos who burst into a bar and shot him dead, wounding three others;

A Cossack meeting house was later burned to the ground in an attack the gang blamed on the Bandidos;

In March the Twin peaks branch where the bloodbath happened had hosted another ‘bikers’ night’ which was about to spill into violence until police defused the situation with the threat of mass arrests;

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3093225/Executed-point-blank-shots-head-one-killed-son-eight-Cossacks-died-Waco-breastaurant-bloodbath-months-bitter-gang-rivalry.html#ixzz3jw6Xcxuu
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205 posted on 08/26/2015 8:40:24 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt

” He said he did not expect trouble that day.”

Duh. What else is he going to say!

They were in a gang war and his dudes showed up at a Bandidos meeting wearing Bandidos patches!

A meeting that had just recently been changed from Austin to HIS hometown!

He shows up seventy+ strong and takes over the Bandidos reserved patio!


206 posted on 08/26/2015 8:43:08 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt
-- There is inferential evidence that the police encouraged Cossacks to show up at the Twin Peaks meeting. --

Appears that inference is likely invalid. From a post at Aging Rebel ...

I was on a facebook page where a lie was circulating as fact, that the Waco Pd set it up and asked Cossacks to go there. Wilson, pres of Cossacks came in and posted that it was false and posted "Waco PD did not invite us to TP. They did suggest that the two clubs start dialog when they came to the shop on March 28th.".

Granted, hearsay on top of hearsay. But it is a direct refutation of police suggesting to Wilson, that Cossacks show up at Twin Peaks. But it also appears that Wilson's "expecting trouble" remark was made on March 28th, and is not reasonably taken as "expecting trouble at Twin Peaks on May 17th."

207 posted on 08/27/2015 4:50:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; TexasGator

Here’s an idea...stop relying on un-sourced and discredited blog sites for your information.


208 posted on 08/27/2015 5:52:02 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Stuff it, asshole. The post I just put up contradicted my previous position, and your inference about the weight and reliance I put on ANYTHING is mistaken.

By the way, I eventually bumped into a news report on the seven examining trials being dropped, no thanks to you for providing a source for a contention that I believed.

209 posted on 08/27/2015 6:05:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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