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Donald Trump and Scott Walker want to repeal birthright citizenship. It’s nearly impossible.
Washington Post ^ | 8/18/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by jimbo123

Shortly after Donald Trump released his immigration policy proposal on Monday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker assured reporters that he agreed with Trump's opposition to "birthright citizenship." The Huffington Post did a quick count and figured that at least five other 2016 Republicans did, too.

"Birthright citizenship" is the idea, introduced in the 14th Amendment, that people born on American soil are automatically American citizens. As Wonkblog's Max Ehrenfreund noted on Monday, there are likely only two ways that the practice could be overturned.

The first would be to somehow convince the Supreme Court to overturn the 1898 ruling, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which established how the 14th Amendment would be enforced. The first clause in the amendment states that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

Ratified in 1868, the clause was meant to ensure that freed slaves were considered American citizens. Wong was born in San Francisco to Chinese parents, which the Court ruled was sufficient to make him a citizen.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; birthright; deportjebbush; trump; walker
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1 posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Won’t Trump have a phone and a pen too? Isn’t that something a president is entitled to?/s


2 posted on 08/18/2015 9:18:05 AM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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"Birthright citizenship" is the idea, introduced in the 14th Amendment, that people born on American soil are automatically American citizens.

Simply false. The Fourteenth Amendment did no such thing.

3 posted on 08/18/2015 9:18:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: jimbo123

Hmmm, Trump is still in the race. So much for the WP’s credibility.


4 posted on 08/18/2015 9:18:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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Actually, quite possible.

Obama has done one thing: shown what the Executive Branch can use it’s power to do.


5 posted on 08/18/2015 9:19:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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I said it first!
No, I said it first!
No, I said it first!
No, I said it first!
No, I said it first!...
6 posted on 08/18/2015 9:19:46 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: EternalVigilance

The media motto :”Repeat a big lie often enough and people will believe it”


7 posted on 08/18/2015 9:20:03 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: EternalVigilance

And besides, you can always argue the intent was solely to ensure that freed slaves had rights of citizenship

There was never an intent to grant to just anyone, esp scammers who come here solely for birthright reasons

Get rid of it ASAP

We don’t want the lowlife of the world gaming our laws or lack of them, and devaluing American Citizenship


8 posted on 08/18/2015 9:20:32 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (De-fund ALL "Sanctuary Cities" And remove the idiots in charge of them.)
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To: Catsrus

Good one. Exacltly my thought.


9 posted on 08/18/2015 9:20:59 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: jimbo123

Who is Scott Walker?


10 posted on 08/18/2015 9:21:03 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,...

Birthright citizenship is limited by “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” Illegal aliens, being invaders from other countries, are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” “Anchor babies” should not be considered citizens.


11 posted on 08/18/2015 9:21:48 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Nearly impossible? Don’t tempt Trump. LBJ knew how to manhandle Congress into doing what he wanted. I think Trump will be more effective.


12 posted on 08/18/2015 9:21:51 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Catsrus

Yeah, they shouldn’t have opened that Pandora’s Box. And Trump is just the guy to get out his phone and pen. Bush, Walker much less so. Not that I approve of this.


13 posted on 08/18/2015 9:22:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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It is definitely NOT impossible. The 14th amendment was “construed” by the Courts to include any baby born on US soil whether or not its parents were US citizens, intended to live here, become US citizens, etc.

Obviously when a foreign person comes though the USA and incidentally give birth, the child is not considered a “natural born citizen” of the USA. This is such as a tourist, a diplomat, etc.

The people “legitimately” voting on the Amendment would be USA citizens. It may well pass.


14 posted on 08/18/2015 9:23:36 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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Beating the British in the Revolutionary War..now THAT was impossible..this is easily doable..it just takes conviction...

OH S**T...it also takes McConnell and Boehner..

15 posted on 08/18/2015 9:23:44 AM PDT by ken5050 ("Hillary Clinton is the NY Jets of American politics"......Salena Zito)
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ok now Walker decides to say this after reading it in Trump’s immigration plan. Too late . We see it for what it is. Walker and none of the others running, only Trump is saying he will deport all illegals.

Out of those running Trump is the only one saying he will deport all illegals. Why aren’t the others saying it? Because they are owned by big donors and lobbyists.

This deportation is the solution to saving America

The politicians have been playing you all for fools lying to you while becoming rich and letting in more immigrants who are destroying the USA as immigrants move the USA to the left politically

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3326006/posts


16 posted on 08/18/2015 9:23:47 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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Sorry Mr. Bump but the 14th Amendment does not permit anchor baby citizenship. That is not in any way shape or form what the amendment was intended to do and it’s only a poorly reasoned court decision that has made the practice allowable. Seems like reversing that practice is a good First Executive Order. Of course President Trump would have to completely clean out the executive levels of ICE and DHS first...but I trust he plans to do that any way.


17 posted on 08/18/2015 9:24:48 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Hey we can redefine marriage we can do anything, legally valid or otherwise.


18 posted on 08/18/2015 9:25:33 AM PDT by relictele (WhatPrincipiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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I think birthright is an important aspect of our culture and society.

Problem is if you are an illegal alien, birthright doesn’t fly. Anchor babies need not apply. If you are illegal, your bloodline is illegal.


19 posted on 08/18/2015 9:26:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Hillary, you magnificent b**ch! I read your book!")
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Nearly impossible?

Obama demolishes Constitutional provisions with a wave of his hand. Where are all the MSM articles telling us how impossible that is?

20 posted on 08/18/2015 9:26:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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