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1 posted on 08/12/2015 10:17:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Maybe so. But if that happens DT will “take down” the GOP with a 3rd party run;he’ll have a gimmick VP pick to stir interest.

The GOP is screwed, and hopefully the democrat party too.


2 posted on 08/12/2015 10:24:59 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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I don’t care who you are for, this is the most entertaining election in decades. Seventeen people in the clown car of love, WOW!


3 posted on 08/12/2015 10:25:16 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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I don’t care for The Donald. I’d much rather have Cruz and/or Scott Walker.


4 posted on 08/12/2015 10:26:58 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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What was wrong here was that it was not his Republican rivals raising these issues or taking on Trump. It was the Fox News “moderators” of what was supposed to be a candidates’ debate. They came into the arena to do to Trump what his GOP rivals have been too timid or reluctant to do.

Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly came with their oppo research done and attack questions prepared — to sack Trump in the end zone and send him to the locker room on a stretcher.

When did that become the job of a “moderator” who is supposed to be more of a referee than a middle linebacker?

5 posted on 08/12/2015 10:27:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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Trump should start his own party.

We really should have TWO partys.


6 posted on 08/12/2015 10:30:38 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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Make no mistake. The issues Fox News raised were legitimate.

This is such a lie, that it should be vibrating on our screens.

Anyone have any idea when the original Trump vs O'Donnell spat took place. I thought it was a couple of years ago, but I would have not been surprised if it as only 18 months or so.

Folks, Megan Kelly drug up this feud from December of 2006. LINK

That's how relevant it was. Going on nine years ago. Seriously? Legitimate? We have nothing better to ask our presidential contenders than about nine year old spats?

In the Democratic Party, too, we have seen the rise of outsider-insurgent Socialist Bernie Sanders...

Passing Bernie Sanders off as a Socials outsider in the Democrat Party is just plain lying. Bernie is main stream Democrat party, pure and simple.

Where has this writer been?

7 posted on 08/12/2015 10:33:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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The takeaway:

Thus far in this presidential season, the rise of the Republican outsiders, insurgents, nonpoliticians and anti-politicians reveals how far the people of the United States are estranged and alienated from their political leadership.

Not that the brain trust in charge of the GOP will learn anything from this.

8 posted on 08/12/2015 10:34:58 PM PDT by OddLane
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9 posted on 08/12/2015 10:35:43 PM PDT by Bon mots
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Despicable, the media has been playing this clip of Trump.

Trump:”I would look at the good aspects of Planned Parenthood, and I would also look because I’m sure they do some things properly and good for women. I would look at that, and I would look at other aspects also, but we have to take care of women,” he said. “The abortion aspect of Planned Parenthood should absolutely not be funded.

What line of the budget dedicates funding specifically to abortion?

10 posted on 08/12/2015 10:37:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The tme for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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Here’s an idea.

Trump could just announce he’s going 3rd party.

Set up the workers needed in each state and start running attack ads on Hillary and the RINOs on the republican side.
Hit ‘em till it really hurts.

Then just when the pressure is really intense and he is ahead in the polls he could announce that he would entertain the idea of retiring from the race but only if a suitable conservative is the republican nominee... and name Cruz as that acceptable nominee.

This would present the GOPee with a huge dilemma. It would at that point be a certainty that either Hillary or Trump would prevail..and that Jeb? had no chance at all. So they would either chose to win with Cruz or admit that they think it would be better to let Hillary win than allow a true conservative republican to win. ... Quite a choice.

This is something Trump could do if he is really only interested in saving the country.

I happen to think that he could mount a 3rd party run that has a better than even chance of winning. People are royally pissed off at lying politicians and he could get a lot of votes from both parties.

Wouldn’t the debates be fun.. Hillary, Jeb? and Trump all on one big stage together...lol


13 posted on 08/12/2015 10:43:02 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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“they let Fox do the wet work”
heh


14 posted on 08/12/2015 10:46:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Intellectual honesty compels us to concede that the same people who are complaining about Fox' alleged adversarial interrogation at the Republican debate would be complaining just as loudly if Fox had failed to be equally adversarial in a Democrat debate.

The unwarranted assumption is that Fox should be a special pleader for the Republican Party, or even one candidate in that party, or even a candidate who might or might not be in that party. Fox has its own agenda-surprise!

Intellectual honesty compels us to concede that the questions asked of Donald Trump and the other Republicans were perfectly in order given the context of the times. Should Donald Trump and the others not have been asked in a Republican debate whether or not they will go rogue? Should Donald Trump in an age in which Democrats are alleging a war on women, not have been confronted with his misogynistic comments? Should Marco Rubio who had been accused of being too young and too inexperienced to be president, not be asked about his qualifications for the office? And so on.

Do we really think the Democrat opposition researchers are not already well acquainted with every aspect of the biography of every one of these candidates? Should we really think that the Democrats are not prepared to exploit fully these statements of Donald Trump in which he called a female a "pig?" Do we really think that if Fox doesn't mention it it will never be mentioned?

Intellectual honesty compels us to say that politics is not beanbag and debate is not an occasion to grasp hands and sing kumbaya. A news organization's job is to make news and to expose the candidates to the people. I have said several times on these threads, Trump supporters turned on their televisions to watch a beanbag contest and Megan Kelly came to a political debate.

This is by necessity an adversarial process because a field of seventeen people has to be winnowed down to only one person and the American system is the survival of the fittest in which we say one who would be president must be able to fight in the contest and win. The American people have a right to consider whether they want a man of Trump's intemperance and bellicosity to be president of the United States. They cannot make that judgment unless they are informed by the questioner about his biography. If a candidate is good enough to be president, a candidate should be good enough confront his own biography. The people are entitled the judge the candidate by considering his character. That character is best revealed in adversity.

Fox has performed a great service to Donald Trump and to the other candidates. It is better for these matters to be aired now well in advance of the election in an atmosphere in which the candidate can make his explanation than in a Democrat media dominated debates or, even worse, in an air war in which Hillary's hundreds of millions of dollars worth of campaign ads simply carpet bomb the Republican. Megan Kelly did her job as did the other Fox moderators. Intellectual honesty compels us to admit that if George Stephanopoulos was wrong for planting an IED in a presidential debate, Fox would be equally guilty for not exploring obvious, relevant political questions.

The complaints about Fox moderators come from a misconception and a disagreement about the nature of their proper role. Moderators are interrogators not enablers.


16 posted on 08/12/2015 10:47:11 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Last Thursday? Mods should put this in ancient history.


17 posted on 08/12/2015 10:57:17 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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For entertainment purposes only.

Attacking Vanilla

AUGUST 12, 2015
LEAVE A COMMENT

vanilla ice cream

[Blind Gossip] Usually it’s the opposing political party that takes the biggest negative shots at a Presidential Candidate. However, in this case, the shot against one Candidate are being orchestrated by another Candidate in his own party!

What are they going to do? They are going to try to paint the First Candidate as a racist!

Right now, the Second Candidate’s people are interviewing and “encouraging/incentivizing” those who have worked with/dealt with the First Candidate over the years to give specific examples of anything – anything! – that he has said or done that could be interpreted as racist.

Some of the stories are really dumb, and it would be embarrassing to put them out. “He only eats vanilla ice cream? Never chocolate? That’s racist!” I don’t know which of these [accusations] they are going to use, but they’re feeling kind of desperate about taking him out of the race A.S.A.P. Just don’t expect [Second Candidate] to admit that this is coming from his camp. He doesn’t want the blowback.

Similar: Huge Presidential Secrets

First Candidate:

Second Candidate:


18 posted on 08/12/2015 10:57:50 PM PDT by Bratch
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those leading in the race for the GOP nomination seem to be among the least likely to amass 270 electoral votes.

New York has 29 electoral votes....seems to me the Donald will take them.

24 posted on 08/12/2015 11:35:54 PM PDT by spokeshave (If an illegal alien is undocumented immigrant a drug dealer is an unlicensed pharmacist)
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What would be lost by the total destruction of the Democrat and Republican parties?


26 posted on 08/13/2015 12:07:05 AM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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Trump will take himself out...

Cruz, Carson, Walker, and a few of the proven candidates will privately pair up, after a few of the primaries, and when Texas finally gets a stab at what is left...

Its on to the convention...Trump will be all done by Super Tuesday...

And if not...At least the silliness will be a nice distraction, not such an air sucking MOAB...


29 posted on 08/13/2015 12:10:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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Comments?

Ailes called Trump Sunday and said he was laying off the negative horsecrap. Watch any current newscasts.

38 posted on 08/13/2015 12:57:38 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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FOX FAILED

AILES HEARD THE HOWL OF DISCORD FROM VIEWERS AND CAPITULATED

TRUMP BEAT FOX NEWS....ITS THAT SIMPLE

THE TONE HAS CHANGED COMPLETELY

SEVERAL LIKE BOLLING AND GUILFOYLE AND SEAN AND EVEN TANTAROS AND GERALDO DEFENDED TRUMP LARGE TODAY WITH ONLY SNARKY BUSH SLATTERN PERINO AND STACCATO LOUD MOUTH GUTFELD IN HATE TRUMP MODE

GUTFELD BEING A REAL SOUR GRAPES JACKASS....A PUSSY TO BE HONEST

MEGYN KELLY TAKES AN UNPLANNED TWO WEEKS OFF

BUTT KISSES ERIK ERICKSON IS TOSSED OVERBOARD

AND TRUMP RISES IN POST DEBATE POLLS

THERES YER ANSWER


43 posted on 08/13/2015 1:36:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (My ears are bleeding....FOX ..all I hear are shrill high pitched whiney women taking over each other)
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The Wall Street Journal, or Obama Murdoch Looters Rag for Jeb published a poll which no one noticed or commented on. It has nothing to do with though Donald Trump’s support among Republicans, but the little factoid included that 19% of Democrats would vote for Donald Trump.

Round that to 20% and I have a little reality for you, in Ronald Reagan never pulled 20% of the rabid radical leftist vote out of the Democratic Party for his landslides, and Donald Trump in early polling is doing just that.

I desire you to forget all the bullshit steering polls of Trump loses to all democrats, and Jeb Bush wins. That is bullshit and you know it as much as everyone else does, because Jeb Bush will never pull 1% of anything from democrats, as they will never vote for him, and that marginal middle will never make up the diffference for a Jeb win.....and that includes Jeb Bush is NEVER going to move a Republican majority to the polls in such numbers that e vote flipping by Hillary will steal the election, exactly as Birther Obama stole two elections from John McCain and Mitt Romney. 10 million missing GOP voters are that margin and Jeb Bush running for President is going to have more than that number staying at home again, and not pissed off to revolt when Hillary steals this or whoever is on the left.

I have not mentioned that but Donald Trump has a group which is American enough, who will revolt. Meaning taking up arms and installing his Presidency if the cartel tries to install another Obama.

We return now to the numbers, Donald Trumps 20% of democratic voters. Do you realize that 20% of the democratic group is around 12 million votes. That pretty well negates any Hillary vote e flipping theft.

Let us run the numbers, in Hillary has the 62 million Obama flipped votes. Donald Trump has already taken 12 million of those votes, bringing her down to 50 million.
Donald Trump has fire in his campaign, and if it continues through like Ronald Reagan, this is going to ignite the Tea Party which has proven it will elect Congressional majorities in every district. 5 million voters will therefore show up to the polls or not be voting as I did for the Constitutional Party, but for Donald Trump instead.
Now factor in the reality that Donald Trump is also pulling in female voters, women are worried about the economy, their families, and their future security. They look at Donald Trump and know he cares for his family and knows how to prosper in tough times. The college kids having been cheated by illegitimate Obama and the GOP, are flocking to Donald Trump to in hope. This is a group, along with the 32% Latino vote who are trending Donald Trump.

Now bring the tallies up, Hillary and Donald or Donald and whoever have a 50 million vote base. Donald has taken 12 million from the democrats, that is 62 million. Donald Trump begins siphoning off Latins, Women and College Kids, that is another 8 million.
Hillary Clinton does not gain one vote. That is why there is the move to dump Hillary in she is tanking horridly. The Presidential 2016 AD elections in the year of our Lord numbers tally runs Donald Trump 70 million votes with Hillary Clinton or whoever at 42 million.

The information is being kept from you that Donald Trump has changed thee entire political dynamic in being Big East. The elections have been geared for mega California and New York always going liberal, with Florida and Texas splitting GOP. Then there are the swing states.
Donald Trump as a native of New York, puts the gem state into play. Hillary is a carpetbagger, and everyone else is not New York. Donald Trump takes New York and that means he builds an Electoral College block which blocks all these imported Mexican invaders.

Donald Trump restacks the deck and he wins in swing states, swings the liberal gem state, and wins in both the general election and the electoral college, in a landslide.

This is why the democratic billionaires are trying to get that latte liberal of Starbucks into the race to counter Donald Trump. If Hillary is tanked, then when the economy tanks, Elizabeth Warren is to be moved into the front slot and latte is to be the Vice President. It is the best the liberal billionaires can tally in response as the insider tracking polls are projecting Donald Trump by these margins trouncing Hillary Clinton.

For those who want proof of this, that is what is behind the get Hillary campaign in all these investigations. Bernie Sanders was a straw fossil. He was supposed to rah rah the democruds at the bottom of the barrel that Reid and Pelosi hate as much as Boehner and McConnell hate the Tea Party, and in the primaries Hillary would kick his ass, and they would come back on leash. That though has not worked out, as Americans on the right and the left have had enough Obama rape up the ass, Mexicaniziation and gayphilia.

The dynasty dynamics have changed everything in the cartel has bitch slapped the American psyche too much. The people on the left who though that Nig Luv, Anus Sex and Baby Butchering would make them pleased in Obamacrypt paying for it all, have found they are still the unsaved miserable people they were, and they do not want any more of it, as people on the right never signed up to anal rape ever.
That is why Donald Trump is a draw. He fires people on television. He is a billionaire. He is handsome. He has a hot wife, hot ex wives, and pretty children and they all love him.
When people piss on Donald Trump, he unloads the sewer system on his detractors and buries them.

Donald Trump is the kind of rich Americans like. He earned it and he wants other people rich too, and not leashing them for their votes.

Donald’s 20% of the democratic party puts him into the White House, because it is too large of motion that e vote theft will not work. His Tea Party is armed and will revolt if the election is stolen, as there is no way in hell Donald Trump will not drag this into court and fight it out, exposing it all. Donald Trump will take the GOP vote, as they are not going to vote for anyone else, and in this includes the Paulites and others who just want to believe in the American Dream, get rich and then feel not so guilty as Obama made them feel.

Donald’s 20 I believe will expand against any democratic contender. The GOP elite like bitching about a 3rd party run as the idiot liberals salivate over Donald in the GOP or the 3rd party run.......thing is Donald Trump is devastating the democratic voter base in a greater extent than Ronald Reagan ever accomplished. Donald Trump is at the horizon point of turning the democratic party into a 3rd party like the Green Party. That is what Donald’s 20 means.

Americans on the right and left stop voting for bullshit, and start voting in their own interests, instead of some fag dick up someone’s ass or how to steal money from others for their sins, and Donald Trump is going to change the entire political landscape.

Donald’s 20 has the opportunity to make him historical in Andrew Jackson or Ronald Reagan teflon imperialism in which great things could be accomplished for America and the world in taking America back for Americans.


52 posted on 08/13/2015 2:40:33 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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