Posted on 08/10/2015 4:43:51 AM PDT by rootin tootin
Most of Donald Trump’s public statements include the rote declaration that Obamacare is a disaster. This is true, of course, but it doesn’t tell us anything new. It’s only when he starts elaborating on his objections that one gets a sense of what he believes, and he doesn’t talk like a friend of the free market. During last week’s Republican debate, for example, he was asked about his past praise of single-payer health care and replied, “As far as single-payer, it works in Canada, works incredibly well in Scotland.” This answer was both antithetical to free-market thinking and profoundly ignorant.
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And Trump's deficits?
He’s been talking “tough” for years.
I remember the Merv Griffin feud.
I think alot of FReepers fell for him during the Rosie feud (entertaining threads)
I remain unconvinced he is actually a republican.
Talking tough can be fun to watch - especially aimed at the right people - but his scorched earth shtick just isn’t ever going to be presidential.
Depends on what you mean by "works". I've been practicing medicine for forty years in the US and spent most of my fourth year of medical school in London (UK), working in a big NHS hospital. I live two hours from Canada, and some of my former residents and fellows work there.
All discussions of this subject, including those here, continuously confuse medical and nursing SERVICES with various schemes of PREPAYMENT for those services (often, wrongly, called "health insurance") and also with DIRECT PAYMENT for those services out of taxpayer money (Medicare and Medicaid).
What's true of #1 is not necessarily true of #2 and #3, and what nobody admits is that #2 and #3 are fundamentally different, opposed to one another in fact, and that the two models create opposite incentives and cannot co-exist indefinitely.
As far as taxpayer-funded direct payment schemes go, I presume that they will continue to exist. The original Medicare concept - paying for all "necessary" services without limit, has bankrupted the country and cannot continue. "Obamacare", crappy though it is, is the result - and it's only the beginning. The government (and by this I mean Congress) is not willing to tell the beneficiaries of direct payment that they cannot have something that the prepaid system can provide for ITS beneficiaries, and since the taxpayers will not (and probably cannot) pay for every useful thing, the prepayment system has to be reined in and eventually destroyed.
Single payer "works" in the sense that it puts everybody on the same page (except for wealthy Britons who go to Harley Street and Canadians who come here) and eliminates rent-seeking by "insurance" providers. It greatly reduces options for the sick, and protects taxpayers by limiting their exposure to a fixed amount.
How?
I have tried and tried to explain this to Trumpers....but they have bought into the Donald hook, line and sinker.
Compare Trumps behavior to Cruz...BIG difference and both are hated.
Neither is the Republican Party. They have been for a single-payer system for a long time. So forget that.
You have the last word, as is your nature!
Yes, and you are one of them, and you are doing a good job holding up your side.
You don't seem to give much credit to those who WANT a wrecking ball to destroy the actually-existing GOP, though.
You can send in extra
So you're not worried about that? Trump hasn't said anything about cuts, just that wants to increase funding for military and veterans, keep Social Security and Medicare the way they are, and cut tax revenue. Somethings got to give unless you want to be looking back on the Obama deficits with fond nostalgia.
Well compare his behavior to anyone’s.
I guess I haven’t taken it seriously until now because I assumed it was part of his entertainment industry-hype machine.
He understands “ratings” - how to generate hype & headlines.
If he can play the role of knocking Hillary while absorbing lefty hatred - that works.
But now it appears he is living up to this caricature of what republicans are accused of being.
If someone were to actually assisting Hillary - what would they do differently?
It's tendrils are so woven into the insurance, hospital, doctor, employer and government bureaucracies now that it would be simply impossible to "repeal and replace." Obama knew this, and I think so did the GOPe.
You could possibly get a Constitutional Amendment, but that would require a convention of the states---which I don't see how we can possibly control.
Therefore, the only chance is to have a virtual dictatorial pres who will use ex orders to whack away big sections. I know, sounds like Mussolini, doesn't it?
The really sad thing is, I think we've almost reached that point.
They wouldn’t...
Remember a few things that Trump people ignore:
First, WHY would Trump go after Hillary (and he really hasn’t), when Bill called him before he got into the race and urged him to run?
Second, we saw a post on FR about Hillary targeting 3 candidates...none Trump. Why? They don’t fear Trump.
Third, Trump is acting like a Petulant Child. He gets upset when challenged. He can’t be fighting the GOP-e when he is part of that group!
This is about WE THE PEOPLE having our power stolen from us, and given to the Washington cartel.
I don't care about tone, demeanor, or anything else.
Wake up.
My point is this: I’ve been for a wrecking ball since 1992 - before most of these Freepers had even heard the phrase Republican establishment....and were just hearing about RINOs.
ButI must ask, as a universe, we conservatives were saying that universal single payor care would destroy our free enterprise systems and thus our country. It seems to me we should pick a wrecking ball who is a tad more reliable on this point.
one of the ways they’ve stripped our right - among many - is Obama Care. It is a wrecking ball that will take down the entire economy if left unchecked. So would ANY universal care system by government.
ButI must ask, as a universe, we conservatives were saying that universal single payor care would destroy our free enterprise systems and thus our country. It seems to me we should pick a wrecking ball who is a tad more reliable on this point.
I don’t think you typed slowly enough on this one.
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