Posted on 08/09/2015 12:15:01 AM PDT by CutePuppy
Republicans opened their debate season Thursday in Cleveland and produced the beginning of the beginning for a Carly Fiorina surge and the beginning of the end for a Donald Trump campaign. ..... < snip >
..... In the prime-time tilt, Trump was a major loser, coming off as mean and shallow. ..... < snip >
.... Worse, he was the only Republican who refused to pledge no third-party campaign. "If they don't treat me well," Trump said later, "Why should I make that pledge?" As the poll front-runner, Trump had the most to lose in Cleveland. And he did.
But the star of the night was the little-known Fiorina, who totally dominated the early debate of seven. She displayed an impressive breadth of knowledge of the issues, a precision of language, wove in her Horatio Alger bio (office secretary to chief executive of the world's largest tech company) and showed no hesitancy to throw an elbow.
She credited Trump with tapping into a deep vein of American anger: "Americans are sick of politics as usual. The political class has failed you." But then, referring to Trump's Democrat past, Fiorina said, "I didn't get a phone call from Bill Clinton. Maybe because I didn't give money to his foundation or donate to his wife's Senate campaign."
Among those watching that debate and commenting on social media, Fiorina was virtually the unanimous winner. ..... < snip >
..... Trump was, well, Trump. But less so. ..... Asked to explain his companies' numerous bankruptcies, Trump sounded like Clinton explaining her email imbroglio, claiming he did nothing illegal, simply used existing laws. .....
(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
In the Republican debate on Thursday, Brett Baier asked Donald Trump about his past statements on health care. "Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren't you for it now?"
Baier is right on the facts. In Trump's 2000 book The America We Deserve, he wrote that "The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. ... We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."
Trumps answer to Baier's question should trouble anyone who believes in free market health care reforms.
"As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about, here."
Really? Let's take these claims one at a time.
First, as IBD has frequently detailed, single payer doesn't work in Canada, unless you consider extreme wait times, and the fact that Canadians often come to the U.S. to get needed care, working. One study found that roughly 41,000 leave Canada in a given year for needed health care.
Patients in Scotland, too, suffer from chronic delays. The Sunday Herald, for example, reported earlier this year that "Scotland's health boards are seeing delays of at least three times the target (emergency room) waiting times of four hours — and one health board recorded a wait of over 24 hours."
If you have cancer, Scotland's single payer definitely doesn't work "incredibly well." As Forbes Avik Roy points out, cancer survival rates in the U.S. are 40% higher than in Scotland.
And Trump's last point that single payer could have worked in the United States "in a different age" makes no sense whatsoever, since Trump supported single payer just 15 years ago.
Does he mean to say that it would have worked in 2000, but won't work in 2015? If so, how come? ..... < snip >
Did she also talk about her losing senate campaign, her stint as a McCain advisor, her unsuccessful helming of that tech giant and her shifting positions on major issues?
Or her bashing Ted Cruz as a filibuster senator
Or her girl vacations with pal Megyn Kelly?
Carli speaks nice.....so does Hussein
She appears to be running as VP attack dog and so far is showing that she would kick Dem butts in the VP debate.
A+ at that.
Clearly she won’t be the nominee.
Implosion 6, 5.5, 5, 4.5, 4...
The last two men who picked females as running mates went down to bitter defeats, but you think there will be a third stab at it?
Carly Fiorina pushing Cap & Trade global warming hoax https://youtu.be/bO6Bdt7mbVY
Carly and Megyn are buddies? That’s a little worrisome, and it helps to explain some of Carly’s ‘righteous tone of indignation’ after Trump’s coarse remarks.
If Carly just so happens to visit Megyn’s show in the next few weeks, the fix (the plan to get the Trump out of here) will become even clearer.
Lol to both of your comments.
I love you bro but your Palin bashing is getting old.
HAHA, got ya.
Did I lie in that sentence? Is Mr. McCain president? Is Mr. Mondale a former president?
No, but you seem to be implying that it was Sarah's fault that McCain lost.
Forgive me if I got you wrong, but the Sarah bashing has gone on long enough.
Since I was one of the two main Sarah Palin backers here, I think you know better. What I’m saying is that American politics is like Hollywood. They want a proven formula. Male/female tickets have been tried twice and didn’t work. Was that Geraldine or Sarah’s fault? Probably not. But the party elders won’t see I that way.
Fiorina is not running for VP. She [knows that she] has nothing to contribute as VP, not being from a typical "Washington political class," with wide and deep connections on the Hill.
However... there is a very good chance that GOP VP spot on the ticket will be given to a female Hispanic Governor from New Mexico, Susana Martinez (changed party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 1995).
She lost to Boxer, why would anyone think she would defeat Hellary? Who wants to take that chance with all that is at stake?
Bet me. If Jeb! is the nominee, the running mate will be Rubio, Walker or Kasich.
People hate conservative women. It’s not their fault, but that’s how it is.
I hope Trump starts asking all the others if they’ll support him if he gets the nomination.
Carly has already said she stands with Kelly. If that ain’t sucking up and being exactly what Trump is talking about, I don’t know what is.
This is just a snapshot in time.
Right now Carly is hitting them out of the park.
Who knows what it will be like in six months.
Please go easy on Sarah, she is having a tough time now. She doesn't need to read that you turned on her.,
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