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Why Obama’s epic climate plan isn’t such a big deal
Politico ^ | August 3, 2015 | By Michael Grunwald

Posted on 08/03/2015 12:17:45 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The carbon regulations that President Barack Obama is unveiling today sound like they’ll be a bit stronger than the toothless draft rules he unveiled last year. That doesn’t mean they’ll be strong. And it certainly doesn’t mean they’ll be “the strongest action ever taken to combat climate change,” as The New York Times breathlessly referred to them in its news pages yesterday morning.

It’s not yet clear exactly what they’ll be, because so far the Obama administration has only revealed some non-binding national goals, not the hard emissions targets that states will be required to meet. But the early leaks suggest that the Clean Power Plan will require the electricity sector to decarbonize slightly more than it would have under the draft plan. The sector’s emissions are expected to drop 32 percent from 2005 levels by 2030, up from 30 percent in the draft. The plan now anticipates renewable energy to rise to 28 percent of the grid’s capacity by 2030, instead of 22 percent, and coal to drop to 27 percent of capacity, instead of 31 percent.

That’s nice, but by the end of this year, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance, the power sector’s emissions will already be down 15.4 percent from 2005 levels — about half the anticipated reductions in just a decade, and before the plan goes into effect. In other words, even under the strengthened plan, the rate of decarbonization is expected to slow over the next 15 years. What, did you think the strongest action ever taken to combat climate change would actually accelerate the nation’s efforts to combat climate change?

The final rule will also delay the first deadline for states to meet interim targets from 2020 to 2022, a significant walkback. . .

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1 posted on 08/03/2015 12:17:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Will it increase our electricity bills? Yes? Then it’s a big deal.


2 posted on 08/03/2015 12:20:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The renewable goals aren’t happening. Since people actually like heat and air conditioning, coal will still be around at about current levels. Just need to wait the bastards out.


3 posted on 08/03/2015 12:25:58 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Tell that to the thousands of coal miners, auxiliary personnel, and coal plant operators being thrown out of work.


4 posted on 08/03/2015 12:27:40 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Will we ever be allowed to build new nuclear power plants ??

I’ve heard that the newer technology of nuclear produces far less nuclear waste than the older nuclear plants still operating today.

And nuclear produces no greenhouse gases, which should make liberals happy.

But because of Three Mile Island and an insipid Jane Fonda movie, we aren’t allowed to develop nuclear power in this country anymore. What a way to make public policy decisions, based on a movie.,..........


5 posted on 08/03/2015 12:29:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Brad from Tennessee
And in other related news today...

Alpha Is Latest Coal Producer to Seek Bankruptcy Protection

6 posted on 08/03/2015 12:34:13 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

More lies from the lying liars; the deceived deceivers; the dumbest dummies.
No thanks! Not buying anything libs are selling.


7 posted on 08/03/2015 12:34:58 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Marxist is killing U.S. energy suppliers. Yet most folks are distracted by a dead lion.


8 posted on 08/03/2015 12:35:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Why Obama’s epic climate plan isn’t such a big deal

Because Politico says so?

9 posted on 08/03/2015 12:37:50 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Dilbert San Diego

some are being built right now


10 posted on 08/03/2015 12:46:32 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Tie it up in court for 18 months. Or ignore it.


11 posted on 08/03/2015 12:46:43 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: BenLurkin

Will it increase our electricity bills? Yes? Then it’s a big deal.


Agree. Everyone needs electricity. Those who don’t drive don’t need gas but this one is designed to inflict the most pain it can in the name of bogus relief for the planet....


12 posted on 08/03/2015 12:46:49 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I will burn some charcoal just for fun if it’ll irritate the left.

Remember a few years back when Al Gore and the otherlimousine liberals convinced a bunch of their cultists to turn their lights off for an hour or something like that?

We turned on everylight in the house and even got our big incandescent flood lights and turned them on. Laughing inside the whole time.

By the way, when Gore’s monthly electric bill was estimated a few years back, I saw that he burned more in a month or two than we did in a YEAR.


13 posted on 08/03/2015 12:58:42 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

That was probably at only ONE of his many mansions too.


14 posted on 08/03/2015 12:59:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: nascarnation

Yes. The Tennessee one. Remember the picture of him with two or three giant flat screen monitors in his office, used for his desktop?

That image is seared in my mind. Major league phony.


15 posted on 08/03/2015 1:01:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

We truly live in a feudal society with our elites thumbing their noses at the peasants.


16 posted on 08/03/2015 1:04:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I am tired of repeating this. No one seems to listen.

Following the exposure of the hoax of the hockey stick theory of global warming and the Michael Mann East Anglia emails, Peabody Energy sued the Federal EPA, demanding that the EPA show new provable science on global warming and the relationship to coal.

Peabody won both the original case and the appeal. Rather than take the case to the Supreme Court, the Obama administration made an out of court settlement with Peabody.

The agreement was that the Obama administration would continue the war on bituminous and anthracite coal, which is mostly mined on private land, east of the Mississippi. The administration agreed to facilitate the sale of sub-bituminous coal, what Obama calls clean coal, west of the Mississippi, mostly mined on federally managed land owned by Indian tribes with the stipulation that the coal be sold and shipped to Asia through new coal ports in WA and Oregon.

The problem is that with the price if sub-bituminous coal being literally cheaper than dirt, they need subsidies from the export- import bank to move the coal.

That is what the deal was between Mitch McConnell, Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray.


17 posted on 08/03/2015 1:05:20 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Meanwhile our Navy ships are one third nucular. Sp on porpoise.


18 posted on 08/03/2015 1:13:58 PM PDT by wita
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Politico Commander, "Raise Shields" - "Arm Photon Torpedos!"
19 posted on 08/03/2015 1:17:10 PM PDT by TexasCajun ( “A liberal is someone who thinks he knows more about your experience than you do.“)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
And nuclear produces no greenhouse gases, which should make liberals happy.

NASA and the climate change lobby are saying that water vapor could possibly affect the climate. Nuclear power plants put out water vapor, so nuclear energy may not be that safe from climate change campaigners.

20 posted on 08/03/2015 1:20:56 PM PDT by x
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