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Cecil the lion and some inconvenient truths for North Americans raised on a Disney diet 1
Calgary Sun ^ | 08/02/2015 | Ian Robinson

Posted on 08/02/2015 12:29:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: RIghtwardHo

“I do not believe for one iota that this seasoned big game hunter just thought this was another “legal hunt”. “

Why not? IIRC the normal deal is that the guides will put the hunter/customer in a position to bag whichever game animal he’s paying for. The rest is just details, like what goes on behind the curtain in a play.


21 posted on 08/02/2015 1:05:16 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: packrat35

I agree 100%.


22 posted on 08/02/2015 1:05:57 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: ProfoundMan

Ditto!


23 posted on 08/02/2015 1:07:43 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: PLMerite

That dumb Timmy would’ve never made it past 8 years old were it not for Lassie, LOL!

Mom took me to see the first Lassie ‘movie’ they made in the theater. Lassie got gored by a wild boar! I SWEAR she was gonna DIE! That ketchup WAS blood! I STILL have nightmares about it.

This is the SAME MOM who would wake me up in the middle of the night to watch scary movies with her!

I’m starting to see the root cause of some of my problems in life, LOL! :)


24 posted on 08/02/2015 1:07:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: virgil

So, you seem like a reasonable fellow, but you don’t say what the Dentist “knew” he was doing (I gather that you mean that he somehow knew the hunt was in some way in violation of Zimbabwe’s game laws. Something that still hasn’t been established in any objective media reports that I’ve seen. And no, I won’t take Robert Mugabe’s word for it.)

But, to follow your post, you say “You better know what you’re shooting at. He knew.” Well, he certainly knew he was shooting at a male lion. He also knew that he needed to be on private land, have a qualified and licensed guide with him, and have a valid hunting license. He had all of those things.

So what was it that the dentist “knew” that should have stayed his hand? That the lion in question was somehow off limits? How would he know that? That the lion had been “lured” out of a game preserve? (Is that illegal?) That the lion had been baited (was it, did he know, and is that even illegal?)

Here’s what I know: a bunch of people who don’t like big game hunting have decided that Dr. Palmer is this week’s “Worst Person in the World” because he enjoys the past time of big game hunting. He may also have fallen afoul of Zimbabwe’s game regulations, but that seems irrelevant to the internet outrage: they don’t like hunting, and especially don’t like trophy hunting and they have their handy symbol to hang their anti-hunting agenda on.

But that’s a bit of a digression. I really would like to know what it was that Dr. Palmer “knew” that was so bad that it should land his “butt in a sling.”


25 posted on 08/02/2015 1:07:53 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Prosecuted too many liars to not know a BS excuse when I hear one.

When's the last time you prosecuted one on the other side of the planet, through the press?

26 posted on 08/02/2015 1:08:39 PM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: PLMerite

Why not? IIRC the normal deal is that the guides will put the hunter/customer in a position to bag whichever game animal he’s paying for. The rest is just details, like what goes on behind the curtain in a play.
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And baiting is normal and part of the process.


27 posted on 08/02/2015 1:13:12 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Oh good grief.

I do not believe for one iota that this seasoned big game hunter just thought this was another “legal hunt”.

Who wrote this article? A defense atty? Talk about something not passing the infamous “laugh test”.

*****

Enough of this nonsense. Even if he was an outright poacher, that’s no reason to send him to Zimbabwe for trial before a kangaroo court that would impose the same punishment that would be imposed for killing a human being.


28 posted on 08/02/2015 1:15:16 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: RIghtwardHo

What part of “lions are food” do you not understand. Do you get this emotional about your cow? Your chicken? How about the babies being harvested, butchered, dismembered, and sold?


29 posted on 08/02/2015 1:16:32 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: absalom01
Here’s what I know: a bunch of people who don’t like big game hunting have decided that Dr. Palmer is this week’s “Worst Person in the World” because he enjoys the past time of big game hunting. He may also have fallen afoul of Zimbabwe’s game regulations, but that seems irrelevant to the internet outrage: they don’t like hunting, and especially don’t like trophy hunting...

DINGDINGDING!

30 posted on 08/02/2015 1:19:20 PM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Da bad man shot da puddy tat!”


31 posted on 08/02/2015 1:20:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans. - King Obonzo)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
African Safari to hunt for animals: Hey, I got a better idea how bout hunting a Boko Haram? Check out these photos: http://africanhuntingsafaris.com/hunting-pictures-africa/ Photos ← Quick links to PHOTOS sections: HUNTING 1 → HUNTING 2 → HUNTING 3 → HUNTING 4 → HUNTING 5 LEOPARD → CHEETAH →
32 posted on 08/02/2015 1:21:15 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: Socon-Econ

Sending him to Zimbabwe is a virtual death penalty.

I would hide Palmer in my own house before letting our government impose a death penalty over the killing of a lion.


33 posted on 08/02/2015 1:21:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: driftless2

I think you are missing the point. Animals are food. Babies are humans. There is not law that says you cannot kill animals. Killing humans used to be illegal. In God’s eyes, every murderer will be judged severely, regardless of whether it has become legal.


34 posted on 08/02/2015 1:21:38 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: 5th MEB

You know, early on in this kerfuffle, there was a line of reasoning from folks that I would call “regular hunters”, who like to head off in the fall, with a rifle, or bow, or a shotgun in search of some game to bring home, and a little bit of relaxation. We dress what we kill, and fill the freezer, hand carefully wrapped packages to friends and family and just generally share the bounty. The notion of wasting meat is abhorrent.

But there’s another kind of perfectly legitimate hunting, that I couldn’t even dream of affording, in which the hunter seeks the joy of the hunt, and the trophy. I don’t see why that should be controversial, but some of the first sort of hunters look down their noses at the second sort of hunter, partly at least due to the tendency to be annoyed by people who so ostentatiously display their wealth.

That said, in Africa, trophy hunting is the norm: the guides get the meat, the hunter gets the trophy and the habitat, thus made valuable by the much-hated rich guys paying thousands of dollars gets to continue.

Too bad to see one group of hunters square off against another, though. Once PETA fanatics finish off big-game trophy hunting, they’ll come for our deer rifles and bird guns. Count on it.


35 posted on 08/02/2015 1:21:52 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

36 posted on 08/02/2015 1:23:03 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thousands of wildebeests are rooting for the dentist.


37 posted on 08/02/2015 1:27:17 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: PghBaldy

No it’s not. People need to grow up and realize that Disney isn’t reality.


38 posted on 08/02/2015 1:29:57 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The author seems to overlook the fact that some of us can relate well (and care about) people AND animals

all God’s critters, yaknow


39 posted on 08/02/2015 1:30:16 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: PLMerite
Timmy should stay away from the well?

I don't remember Timmy getting stuck in the well. I do remember that every other episode Lassie got in or out of the. Uilding because no one ever shut a window or even installed a screen around there.
40 posted on 08/02/2015 1:30:42 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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