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Senate Votes to Revive Export-Import Bank, Keep Obamacare
Roll Call ^ | 7/26/15 | Niels Lesniewski

Posted on 07/26/2015 1:53:15 PM PDT by jimbo123

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To: Norm Lenhart

no. that’s not what the people that are freaking out in this thread are freaking out about.


101 posted on 07/26/2015 5:25:24 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Really? Because it’s part of the same issue.


102 posted on 07/26/2015 5:27:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Night Hides Not

Gladly!


103 posted on 07/26/2015 5:31:14 PM PDT by sport
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To: Gritty; All
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
104 posted on 07/26/2015 5:52:40 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I knew I could count on you to deliver the reasonable viewpoint.

A new tone it is! FXXK ‘em!


105 posted on 07/26/2015 6:06:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Reasonable viewpoints are what I do. It’s not my problem that so many people are by definition, unreasonable.

;)


106 posted on 07/26/2015 6:10:01 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Windflier

Wonderful evaluation and so true. Here is what is going to happen. Fox ( rino’s) will try very hard to “bush whack” ( wonderful pun) Trump. They will try to show that he doesn’t know what to do with 11 million illegal aliens. He will respond very specifically. 1. You will have 90 days to register. 2. If you have a felony warrant or conviction, Bye!! 3. If you have used a false Social Security number, adios.
The rest will receive a work permit renewable every 90 days ,if you appear after you register and pay taxes!! You will never vote on penalty of 5 years in prison. Very humane.
The rest— It will be 3 years prison time for ANYBODY that pays them to work.
We are coming and it will not be pretty.


107 posted on 07/26/2015 7:13:29 PM PDT by WENDLE (Don't allow Fox to "bush whack" Trump!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Well Laz you bring up the question of the century. Who do you hate more the Democrats or the Republicans. I hate the Republicans because they lied to us. The Dems said right up front what they would do.


108 posted on 07/26/2015 7:46:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Linda Frances

Independents don’t help the cause of outing the elephants and donkeys! Need a good plate of an organized new party across the country for all offices.


109 posted on 07/26/2015 8:16:54 PM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: JohnBrowdie
John, I have read the article and I am aware of the possibility of bringing Obama Care up for a straight up vote on repeal which, even if successful, will fail in an attempt to override Obama's veto. Beyond the value of putting these Rinos on record, the rest is pure political theater which we nevertheless ought not to despise as we approach the election.

But my motivation for taking my leave of any moral obligation to support the Republican Party is not because of this last affair in the Senate, it was not even precipitated by the rebuke of Sen. Cruz. The blatant lies of Mitch McConnell who was then supported by his lieutenants in the Senate is sufficient but not necessary cause, the justification having been clear for some time. The fact that his lieutenants then undertook to kill the messenger only reinforced the only obvious conclusion and the only moral choice for a conservative: to abandon party loyalty and actually work against the Republican establishment even if it costs an election.

As I said in the previous post, this is a hard decision. It is not taken lightly and the consequences have been soberly considered. We are not about winning an election, we are about saving our constitutional democracy.

That does not mean that this point in the primary season that I believe we should support Donald Trump, we have Ted Cruz and Walker to support. My position with respect to Donald Trump is to let him have his say while we patiently point out his biography and history in the expectation that his meteoric rise will see its eclipse as more and more conservatives know the facts of Donald Trump and as Donald Trump confirms every criticism out of his own mouth.

To return to the idea of withdrawing support from the party and even working against its establishment, I'm not at all sanguine about this prospect. I have seen how the establishment destroyed the Tea Party as an effective instrument and I expect that all maverick movements will be assailed by all the money and all the media at the establishment's disposal. John Boehner and Mitch McConnell will wield their considerable powers ruthlessly in defense of their positions. I have no doubt if an election is in the balance, they will ruin if they cannot rule. We have come to the point where we must with "unflinching fortitude behold, accept, and deal with reality no matter how unpleasant the prospect" and unflinchingly take the ultimate step.

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110 posted on 07/27/2015 12:06:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Night Hides Not

Unfortunately for the American people. These whore’s didn’t just crap on Ted Cruz or conservatives, they crapped on the American public. In the dead of night on a weekend,they betrayed their promise to the American people and prostituted the Senate and the taxpayers dollars to special interest crony capitalists.


112 posted on 07/27/2015 2:01:10 AM PDT by ZULU (Democrats are paleosocialists)
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To: Night Hides Not

Unfortunately for the American people. These whore’s didn’t just crap on Ted Cruz or conservatives, they crapped on the American public. In the dead of night on a weekend,they betrayed their promise to the American people and prostituted the Senate and the taxpayers dollars to special interest crony capitalists.


113 posted on 07/27/2015 2:03:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Democrats are paleosocialists)
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