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To: Sola Veritas

Trump is a buffoon, but it is the so-called “conservatives” that are actually considering this person as a viable candidate that are either fools or trolls. Donald Trump is NOT attempting to “fix” America. He is stroking his undeserved ego and messing with the GOP primary. Real conservatives like Ted Cruz are being hurt and ignored because of this idiot.

I much as I dislike the GOP establishment, I would vote for many (not all) in the general election if they get the nomination; I wouldn’t be happy about it. However, Donald Trump is such a despicable personage that I would NEVER vote for him in either a primary or GENERAL election. I will stay home like I should have for Romney.


6 posted on 07/21/2015 4:42:14 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Do real conservatives get behind a 5 fold increase in the number of H-1B visas?


10 posted on 07/21/2015 4:43:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sola Veritas

“Real conservatives like Ted Cruz are being hurt and ignored because of this idiot.”

Don’t blame Trump because your boy’s soft-spoken routine isn’t capturing the public.


11 posted on 07/21/2015 4:43:52 PM PDT by proust ("Is this a blip, or is it a catastrophe?" -Donald J. Trump)
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To: Sola Veritas

I feel the exact opposite. I will vote for Cruz in the primary, but if the GOP nominates YEB! or Rubberio or La Raza Rick, I will not vote for them. No cheap labor importers.
If Trump gets the nomination, it would be a less painful vote for me than Romney was.


15 posted on 07/21/2015 4:46:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Sola Veritas

Except that Trump has done more for the victims of illegal immigration in the last 6 weeks than all the other candidates combined.

It is easy to ignore the thousands of victims butchered by illegal immigration and to cavalierly pontificate. In the time that Trump has been on the scene he has provided momentum for Kate’s law and for congressional hearings on the gruesome deaths for the victims of illegal immigration. All this because of Trump.

And for all your pontificating you have done what to help these people?


27 posted on 07/21/2015 4:54:45 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Sola Veritas
So just what does Trump's success say about the gross inability of the other more ‘qualified’ candidates to speak to the issues on the minds of the electorate?

And he's the buffoon?

I would add that he is the ONLY candidate I have ever heard say that he would use being pro life as a litmus test for Supreme Court nominees.

...you really think he is that mentally messed up that he would put himself through this just to screw up the system?
I'm going with him being sincere as the only logical conclusion.

And I will wholeheartedly support and vote for him if he runs third party against Bush.

34 posted on 07/21/2015 4:55:44 PM PDT by bramps (Wake me up when we find a candidate to take on the scourge that is Islam.)
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To: Sola Veritas
Trump is a buffoon, but it is the so-called “conservatives” that are actually considering this person as a viable candidate that are either fools or trolls. Donald Trump is NOT attempting to “fix” America. He is stroking his undeserved ego and messing with the GOP primary

What is most sad isn't that Trump is a realityTV clown, it's that so many conservatives seem to support him - even knowing he has no record as an ideological conservative. We make fun of Obama's gang as the Kardashian Presidency, and yet here we are with this ridiculous realityTV snake oil salesman getting so much support on many conservative forums where you'd think people would know better. I think the lesson is, some people on both sides are susceptible to falling prey to angry populists who have no actual solutions, but say things people want to hear. You'd hope it would only be emotional liberals that would fall for these things, but no, the problem exists with people of all political stripes.

However, Donald Trump is such a despicable personage that I would NEVER vote for him in either a primary or GENERAL election.

See this is where I differ with some. I think Trump is a ridiculous clown with no actual conservative plan or policy prescription to achieve the things he claims he will do. However, I WILL vote for him if he were to be the Republican nominee (which won't happen anyway). Trump would be a wildcard - could be absolutely horrible or might actually try to follow through on his right of center promises. The odds are pretty good though that he would be better than Hillary or any other Democrat. So yeah, in a general election I'd vote for him. Then again, in a general election I'd vote for any R over a Democrat. Not because the R is any good, but that they'd be better than the D. General elections are a choice in our 2 party, winner take all, no coalition system. Voting for Trump wouldn't mean I like him, it would just mean I dislike the other guy/gal more.

47 posted on 07/21/2015 5:03:16 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Sola Veritas

Mr. Trump did NOT hurt Sen. Cruz.

Sen. Cruz shot himself in the kneecap by
helping pass ObamaTRADE before he voted against
it (when it was unstoppable).
Sen. Cruz would have been in first place but for that.


51 posted on 07/21/2015 5:04:26 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Sola Veritas
Trump is a buffoon.

Wow, I second that. He's a distraction and while many here enjoy his GOPe bashing, at some point he needs to be swept away.

56 posted on 07/21/2015 5:07:50 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Sola Veritas
Trump is a buffoon,

If Trump is a buffoon, and yet worth billions, what does that make you?

I'm not a Trumper, I do not think he will make it as the nominee and I don't believe at this point I would vote for him, but a buffoon, he is not.

Using pejoratives to describe him is best left to the, well, left.

62 posted on 07/21/2015 5:10:11 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Sola Veritas

Stay home then,, and keep your snot-nosed condescension with you.


66 posted on 07/21/2015 5:12:53 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Sola Veritas

The danger to the Republicans, at this point, is that The Donald will pick up all his marbles and REALLY go rogue, forming a third party. Like 1992, and like the earlier example of H. Ross Perot, the Republican party will be seen as the target and the major casualty in this distance-and-direction urination contest, and The Donald has the wind at his back.

Oh, like Perot, he would lose, placing badly in third, but it would elevate whoever the Democrats would choose to offer up. And if it is Herself, Madame Benghazi, the Cold & Joyless, it would be almost a rematch of the 1992 race.

The Republicans could do far worse than trying to come to a peaceful settlement with The Donald long before this whole populist firestorm overtakes them, as this would cause a rout at the statehouse and local levels, and in both the House of Representatives and Senate, ending up with losing the Supreme Court for perhaps a half century or more.

The territory once known as “the United States of America” would pass into history much like the Roman Empire, but much more swiftly, and with a more lasting effect on centuries to come. “The West”, as a concept, will also be swept away, and it would be hard to imagine a more dystopian future in any future history, save the possibility we were invaded by a species from an alien planet.

Pray for the invasion by aliens, for that is the only thing that will bring all humanity back onto the same side. But then, we would have to WIN that confrontation, and that makes things much more dicey.


85 posted on 07/21/2015 5:21:19 PM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Be careful...

You will feel the wrath of the Trump people on here.

I agree with you though


91 posted on 07/21/2015 5:23:32 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Sola Veritas

Trump is a buffoon, but it is the so-called “conservatives” that are actually considering this person as a viable candidate that are either fools or trolls. Donald Trump is NOT attempting to “fix” America. He is stroking his undeserved ego and messing with the GOP primary. Real conservatives like Ted Cruz are being hurt and ignored because of this idiot.


Nope. Real conservatives like Cruz are hurt by fake conservatives like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. In fact, Trump is doing genuine conservatives a big favor by using his fire power to expose the duplicity of the beltway GOP.

We can’t engage the Dems until we secure our flanks. That means neutralizing the progressive wing of the GOP. That is what Trump is doing right now.


101 posted on 07/21/2015 5:29:27 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Sola Veritas

“Trump is a buffoon”

Sorry. Absolutely disagree. Not my cup of tea, but he is definitely not a buffoon. He’s actually showing that politicians, in general, are just not very impressive. Trump is serving a significant purpose at this stage of the game, essentially nullifying the political correctness mafia. It’s highly unlikely you’ll have to ‘not vote for him’ in the general, and I understand your points, but I definitely don’t think ‘buffoon’ is an accurate characterization.


150 posted on 07/21/2015 6:04:35 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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