Posted on 07/19/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
What has gone underplayed in today's widespread outrage over Donald Trump's dismissal of John McCain's war heroism is that the GOP national-poll front-runner's comments, besides demonstrating an idiocratic lack of basic human judgment and decency, are also dead wrong.
Because this is Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is a vulgar anti-intellect who cannot string a coherent paragraph together, his full statement contradicts itself several times within 57 short words. So let's just focus on the bolded part from his remarks:
He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured—OK, I hate to tell ya. He's a war hero because he was captured, OK? And I believe perhaps he is a war hero, but right now, he said some very bad things about a lot of people.
As someone who wrote a very critical book about the Arizona senator, titled McCain: The Myth of a Maverick, I am more familiar than most television entertainers with the weak points in John McCain's record. His experience as a POW is not one of them. Back in October 2008, the people making the McCain's-no-hero arguments were not Republican presidential contenders, but liberal journalists, such as those who work for Rolling Stone. As I responded to their findings back then in the L.A. Times,
[T]he most pertinent part of McCain's heroism [is that by] all accounts, his noisy resistance to everyday humiliations, and his profane outburst at a made-for-propaganda Christmas service in 1968, gave great strength to his fellow POWs. McCain was an inveterate communicator in Hanoi, tapping code like mad to keep his comrades' spirits up and even acting as chaplain when conditions in the prisons started to improve.
(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...
http://conservativebyte.com/2015/07/fact-checking-the-trump-mccain-fight/
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/29/john-mccain-war-hero-or-something-less/
http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
http://antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/27/mccain-betrayed-viet-pows/
http://takimag.com/article/judas_mccain_guy_somerset/print#axzz3gOCRtr7x
well said. This should end the conversation about Trump...let the sleazebag drift off to nowhere.
Do a simple search. They’re all over the place.
Mccain made 32 propaganda videos for the vietcong.... is that the resistance you refer to? How many did Stockdale make?
You've come completely undone, Nick. Get some rest.
What’s the old saying? “YOU CAN’T SPIT ON SUPERMAN”S CAPE”, “YOU CAN’T MAKE FUN OF THE “LONE RANGER”, “YOU CAN’T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT “MOM” AND “APPLE PIE”. Yep, Trump stepped into a “COW PLOP” that he’ll have trouble getting out off.
OK, I see Palinization in this article.
First: vulgar. That’s always a tip-off. Then the accusation of word salad. Of course, if you watch the video with all the pauses and gesticulations, the words quoted make sense. On paper, perhaps not so much.
But then Newt Gingrich spoke in eloquent sentences and he was accused of being a vulgar creep as well.
So conservatives (or populists) can’t win and perhaps they should just stick to who they really are and forget about Reason Magazine.
Good grief....effin’ Reason is your source op-ed? Well done, seeky findy.
I was just about to post that about Reason. Lefties.
No thanks, No Sale.
Lol. Point out anything I said that was untrue. Any other candidate you’d be trashing for this, but somehow the more liberal things about him, the more you like him.
It’s irrelevant. (The issue of the post was whether or not this McStain hoohaw will help our hurt Trump....not Trump’s personal life.)
And, his wife/wives are legal immigrants.
Define your words “draft dodger”
Also define “Tax dodger”
Then try and reconcile your differing definitions.
You are quite the prognosticator.
"Trump will be out in 2 weeks", from a month ago.
"Trump is only worth a $100 million" Prior to trump releasing a net worth of $10 billion.
This is how
D11N Trump/Cat dozer, working
Notice how he first flattens everything, and then digs his rippers into them as he continues on?
Admiral (then a USN Captain) Stockdale and all other POWs inside the HH confirmed the only way to come home early was if Admiral Stockdale granted permission; there was no other way around it. There was very few releasees. One was a Seaman Apprentice named Douglas Hegdahl III who had spent night and day memorizing the names of 256 aviators into a rhyme and jingle. He was ordered to be an early release because he had those names to pass on to his debriefer when he got home.
McCain was never ordered to early release although the enemy offered it to him. He refused because of the standing order given by his POW Commanding Officer James Stockdale.
From Admiral Stockdale's book p.254:
There was little concern in any American's mind about the possibility of the Vietnamese throwing anybody out to defame him; we now knew the Vietnamese well enough to be sure that any early releasee would have to buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America. I gave their new release program a name: FRP -- the "Fink Release Program," and that was the way it was to be known. I also issued an order that started on its way to the other cell blocks of Las Vegas and with subsequent movers to the camps elsewhere in the city and outside it: "No early release; we all go home together".
Donald is entitled to his own view. What McCain has done since coming home has in my mind over road any goodwill his service created.
Person who dodges the draft
Also define “Tax dodger”
Person who dodges their taxes.
Then try and reconcile your differing definitions.
One is about taxes, the other is about the draft.
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