Tea Party sours on Donald Trump

Washington Examiner ^ | July 18, 2015 | David M. Drucker

[Sybeck1]

That’s it! Vote Jeb!!! Your Overlords command it!!

[Sir_Humphrey]

When people say “history has proved”, it usualy means they are making it up... Sorry, history has proved it. Ex. Smoot Hawley, the steel tariffs that W had to abandon in the early 200s. In fact, name me an industry that is still in existence that was helped by tariffs.

Actually, we will suffer a net loss of jobs as there will be fewer exports.

[Sir_Humphrey]

I just listened to that part. He pretty much admitted that it was "not his issue" but that it was important to the tea party types.

That hardly sounds pro-life to me. Even Stern wasn't buying it based on interviews he did with him over the past 20+ years.

[jpsb]

We are a Chinese colony, we export raw materials to them and they take the raw materials and manufacturer stuff with it. Then they export finished goods back to us. Just like we used to do back in the day.

We are a colony, a deep in debt colony. Up until the mid 60's (LBJ) we had manufacturing (and jobs) here in the USA then the "free trade" illness stuck and we've lost our manufacturing base, lost our middle class jobs and are now 17+ trillion dollars in debt. But hey (made in China) things are cheap at Walmart for those that can still afford to shop at Walmart. I hear dollar stores are doing well. And the 1% is doing great selling what left of the USA to China.

[sushiman]

He said at least twice that he was “ pro life “ .

[Sir_Humphrey]

I have to disagree. The $17(actually $18) Trillion debt is related to us spending more than we take in. Tax receipts are at a record level. We have to build on those industries we excel at such as technology, energy and healthcare.

The Donald has to know this. One of the few things he has said that I agree with is when he said he is not a stupid man. He has proven that; he sure knows how to pander.

[Sir_Humphrey]

Yes, almost under his breath and in passing right after he said it was not his issue but he knew it was important to the tea party members.

He described himself as strongly pro-choice as late as 2000. So what has changed? What was behind this transformation that now makes him pro-life in 2015? Oh yeah; he is now running for president and needs the tea party members who are mostly pro-life as well.

Coincidence or playing to the base?

[sushiman]

Q: Evangelicals want to feel secure that they’re going to have a nominee that’s solid on those social issues.
A: One thing about me, I’m a very honorable guy. I’m pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine’s wife was pregnant, and he didn’t really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It’s the greatest thing that’s ever happened to him. And you know here’s a baby that wasn’t going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.

Q: So those stories did change you, they came around and changed you?

A: They changed me. Yeah, they changed my view as to that, absolutely.

Source: David Brody interview on CBN.com , Apr 8, 2011

[jpsb]

Well whatever, as a free trading nation we are broke, we have high unemployment and we are deep in dept. Only the federal reserve printing presses are keeping us afloat. As a non free trading nation (pre 1965) we had the highest living standard in the world and were the wealthiest nation in the world by far. So I’d say history agrees with me. And Oh by the way the same thing happening to us happened to Great Briton once Great Briton adopted free trade as an economic model mid 19th century. Dido Spain in the 17th century.

[Sir_Humphrey]

Really? Nothing about the sanctity of human life vis a vis the unborn fetus? Nothing about the fact that there was an actual human being that that would have his/her skull crushed and then it's limbs torn out of their sockets by a vacuum cleaner? Nothing about the viability of the fetus? Only that his friend is now happy? What if the baby had a birth defect? His friend may not be happy. Would that mean the Donald would go back to being strongly pro-choice?

Don't get me wrong either. I am not a one issue guy. But I was responding to a post that pointed out 3 or 4 of his flip flops. I just added a couple more the poster omitted. We have a too many insincere politicians who pander to the party's base by flip flopping and claiming they "evolved'. The current occupant of 1600 PA Ave comes to mind.

[mbrfl]

Yep. The Tea Party is furious with Trump for attacking a backstabbing RINO. /sarc

[Sir_Humphrey]

Interesting theories. I did not know the 17th century Spaniards were free traders. And all along I thought Britain's economic decline was due to the cost of maintaining its colonies combined with various military defeats. In fact, one of the items that was responsible for the stagnation of economic growth was the political power of the trade unions but I digress. I just never heard that is was the lack of tariffs that was more responsible than these things.

We were a free trading nation well before 1965. Free trade didn't harm us; it was the growth of government, high taxes and most recently illegal immigration that have started us down the road of decline. Top it off with social and moral decay and you have the mess we are in right now.

[itsahoot]

A skunk who has it's white stripe dyed black is still a skunk.

On the other hand painting a white stripe down a black cat's back don't make the cat a skunk Pepi.

[Colonel_Flagg]

I’m saying I want to see proof. Real, actual proof. Not what Donald Trump claims.

Just four years ago, he was saying we HAD to have national health care. Now he says he’s Obamacare’s biggest opponent.

The comparison of Trump to Reagan in terms of party switching will be valid when Trump backs up what he says with real, proven conservatism. I want to see cattle, not just hat.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Reagan won the cold war.
He gave us the largest peacetime economic expansion since World War II.
And if you’re going to come here and disparage him, I’d respectfully suggest you bring your hard hat and pack a lunch.

[skippyjonjones]

Love it!

[Impy]

Donald Trump, a proud conservative since June 2015!

I came to the conclusion some time ago that “Tea Party” is meaningless. It’s become just a phrase. From the beginning the label was used by many opportunists, many of whom where terrible candidates and/or of questionable conservationism. “Oh look at me, I’m tea party! I hate Congress, that’s why I want to join it so badly!!”. It’s also used by the party establishment sometimes. Any Republican or third party douche can claim to be a part of it and to speak for it.

So I just call myself a conservative. That word is also co-opted by people like the “severely conservative” Romney but at least it really means something.

[wardaddy]

Oh yes the entire GOP field runs to shite on Trump cause he’s kicking their butts

Only Cruz was quiet

That’s cause he has sense

Both Perry and Walker ran to enemy media outlets like Chuck Todd to bash Trump

Makes it easier to tell the traitors frankly

Trump can kill the GOPe

That makes him worthy

Eff McCain

[Does so]

I'm a Walker fan, but Trump is the perfect "Rodeo Cowboy".

Seeing what the function of a "Rodeo Cowboy" is.