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Why Background Checks Couldn’t Stop Dylan Roof
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/10/2015 | John Lott

Posted on 07/11/2015 8:26:58 AM PDT by rktman

The FBI says that the federal background check system for guns should have stopped Dylann Roof, the racist who killed nine black parishioners at a church in Charleston.

“This rips all of our hearts out,” says FBI Director James Comey, who blamed the mistake at least partially on improperly labeled paperwork.

But the truth is more complicated. First, even a perfectly functioning background check system very likely wouldn’t have stopped Roof from getting a gun. Second, the current background check system is a much worse mess than Comey recognizes.

With Roof planning his attack for at least six months, it seems hard to believe that he couldn’t have figured out some way of obtaining a gun. Indeed, he stole the gun that he used in this attack.

The truth is, the databases the government uses to determine eligibility for gun purchases are rife with errors. Comey’s comments focus on one type of error, where someone who should have been prohibited from getting a gun wasn’t stopped. But a much more common error involves people who should have been able to buy guns but are stopped.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
So, I guess even more stringent requirements will levied on common every day law abiding citizens. Odd thing is that had this assclown been that set on doing his evil deed, some chain, padlocks and a few cans of gas would have achieved similar results. Bad actors are gonna find a way to carry out their evil acts regardless of any restrictions placed on every day people.
1 posted on 07/11/2015 8:26:58 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

As history has shown us time and time again, government run solutions are crippled by incompetence.


2 posted on 07/11/2015 8:28:32 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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...”the right of the public to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...”

(The founders were not stupid, they knew that armnaments could sometimes be mis-used. They decided that the risk of an unarmed citizenry was far the greater...)


3 posted on 07/11/2015 8:31:25 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (For in much wisdom is much vexation; and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.)
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To: rktman

Yep. If not a gun a bomb. If not a bomb, knives. If not knives, a lead pipe. Maybe if they had just outlawed living none of these deaths would have occurred..../s

Evil always finds a way. The WH and use of executive orders and the Supreme Court to bypass the will of The People is a perfect example.


4 posted on 07/11/2015 8:31:33 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: rktman
Indeed, he stole the gun that he used in this attack.

Wait a minute.

Either the FBI screwed up, or the lunatic stole the gun.

Which is it?

5 posted on 07/11/2015 8:31:59 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: jsanders2001

The Boston marathon bombing was done with a pressure cooker and some legally available ingredients but a couple of amateurs.


6 posted on 07/11/2015 8:39:53 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: rktman
Before 9/11 (and the admittedly unusual circumstances surrounding it), the largest act of mass murder in the history of New York City was the arson fire at the Happy Land club in the Bronx in 1990, where 87 people lost their lives.

We can see plenty of evidence of government failure in that case, too. The incident took place almost a year and a half after it had been ordered shut down due to numerous fire code violations.

A person hell-bent on murder is dangerous enough. But there are few things more deadly than the combination of malicious intent and incompetent, irresponsible government.

7 posted on 07/11/2015 8:49:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Arm_Bears

I think he got it from the doj (conspiracy time) to carry this evil act out so hildebeast could re-ignite further infringement on our rights under the new improved elastic constitution. I keep getting confuseder and confuseder all the time. Which is their intent. I think.


8 posted on 07/11/2015 8:51:10 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Hmmmm. Universal background checks when filling gas cans?


9 posted on 07/11/2015 8:53:41 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Arm_Bears
Either the FBI screwed up, or the lunatic stole the gun.

The referenced article indicates that he bought the gun and his mother took it away from him and that he took it back. How that equates to "stole the gun" I don't know.

10 posted on 07/11/2015 9:05:22 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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Maybe’s can run it lots of different directions.

Maybe if gun laws were not so stringent, one of the victims might have been armed.

Maybe if one of the victims had been armed, there wouldn’t be any victims.


11 posted on 07/11/2015 10:00:47 AM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: Spok

“But a much more common error involves people who should have been able to buy guns but are stopped.”

One suspects the government doesn’t see this as an error, but a good thing, and very likely the whole point of the background check program.

If we can’t ban the guns, we’ll ban the buyers.


12 posted on 07/11/2015 11:15:08 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Spok
The function of government is to govern; they will take what we will relinquish. ~ Robin of Kingston

As history has shown us time and time again, government run solutions are crippled by incompetence. ~ Spok

Your statement is correct, Spok, and may it always be so. Given my statement above, which is also correct, a competent government is far worse than an incompetent government.

13 posted on 07/11/2015 3:48:53 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Just what is the difference between a "centrist democrat" and a "moderate republican?")
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