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To: X-spurt; Finny; wardaddy; Boomer; Bidimus1; TXnMA; PA Engineer; null and void; don-o; ...
Having slept, and awakening if not refreshed at least somewhat rested, I'd like to reply to not just a few individual posters but also address some of the larger and more significant memes and attitudes that the Waco incident bestirs amongst the citizenry, its guards, its would-be owners and its rebellious insurrectionists. As a part of that, it is good to recognize that there's also a community here at Free Republic that's worth preserving.

There's a lot of value here, and it is a quintessentially American value and practice: annoyed, blunt bickering without violence. We settle our internal differences, for the most part, with words and votes in this country rather than open gunfire and ideologically driven acts of murder. It's a good system, and one that has served us well as a people.

But all sides have to agree to that practice.

That includes the agents and officers of the State who draw their power and authority from us.

Very simply put, there are enough clear indicators that the State is in breach of contract and no longer abides by the terms; that the consent of the people to be governed by that power, has been withdrawn by painful and ugly lessons that teach our people that this breach of contract has, truly, been effected.

We - and I mean all of us - have reached a very bad place. The guards of our security have become the guards that control, and Juvenal's quis custodiet ipsos custodes is no longer a question of social theory but an active one of operational military planning among the people.

That is not hyperbole. The Bundy Ranch incident is notable not merely for its successful use of armed force to create surrender on the part of the State - it also demonstrated effective and most importantly successful military operations. Best of all, there was no loss of life.

That's textbook.

There are some very, very smart and grimly organized men who believe with their entire spirit that freedom is better than slavery; that the Leviathan is truly uncoiled and on the rampage; and that Death is not the worst of evils.

I said before this is a low intensity conflict across the country, and I did not use those words lightly.

There are judged to be at least 50,000 and potentially as many as 80,000 Special Weapons and Tactics raids in the United States each year. We all know the saga of kicked in doors and shouted orders at midnight and the shootings and rounding up of families.

There is now no tangible difference between light infantry troops in a hostile zone of occupation and law enforcement response. The uniforms, the equipment, the tactics and the purpose - domination and forced obedience to insure preservation of State lese majesty and authority rather than the will of the local communities - is terrifying.

That terror is purposeful, and deliberate.

And we know it. We feel it. We think about it, and we believe it.

Because we see it.

That's one of the reasons why Waco is, for so many people, a watershed event. It's not simply a case of undesirable elements, blended in with neutrals and innocents, getting Texas-style justice that they should have expected. There are those who do feel that way. I understand that perspective. In another time, another generation, it might have been absorbable and digestible and even if still horrific, perhaps passable within that narrow framework. I don't say that's right, just that it is what it is. The events of May 17th of this year at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco, Texas are unfortunately and very disturbingly nestled within a larger change of the times and serve as a crescendo of the current swells of totalitarianism that are unsettling the country and our people.

"Criminal bike gang" is simply a propaganda meme. Is there a such thing as a criminal bike gang? Yes, in the same way that there are "assault weapons" or "domestic extremists".

It's propaganda labeling, designed to stigmatize and defeat. Or, if you like, "pick, personalize, polarize and ridicule". Same stuff.

A healthier and more honest way to think of it is to ask some more searching questions of broader utility and implication, and consider those implications as they intersect; and how exponential impact arises from those intersections.

Are three piece patch motorcycle clubs a threat to the security of the State?

Yes, they are. They consist of men who openly embrace the risk of sudden, unpredictable and violent death as an inherent transactional cost of the exhilaration and boundless joy of real freedom.

Who place consistency of unit cohesion and loyalty over not just mere individuality but also over the more gut level human emotions of fear and greed and other basal reactions.

They are armed, and the highest archetype of the culture is the outlaw, who does not apologize for the hard and terrible sacrifices of a true type of freedom that is quintessentially American.

Are Oathkeepers and Three Percenters a threat to the security of the State?

Yes, they are. By their very existence they are a finger of harsh accusation pointed at State legitimacy, an open and deadly warning that conscience trumps command authority. That within the midst of the State is the patient and awakened seed of its own death, should it trespass bounds that violate the oaths of men who take those oaths seriously.

They are not merely armed and trained and coordinated - they are also nestled deep within the bowels and neurons and sinews and perceptions of the Leviathan, already mestastized, poised and watching and not forgiving.

Are veterans a threat to the security of the State?

There are millions of them. They all swore an oath, even if so many of them are hurting and bitter and lied to and withdrawn, wounded, underneath the often thin blankets of family and community and lacking the needed morale of leadership in the nation to enable them to feel that somehow the deaths of their brothers in Fallujah and Ramadi and other savage places at least isn't being openly spit on through the incomprehensibly stupid and rudderless idiocy of the ideologists that helm the ship of State.

What is the great fear?

What tyrants always fear; what the State always fears. Effective coalescing of these kinds of existential threats, under motivating circumstances, with leadership that drives to further goals than those of the moment.

We are no longer in Claire Wolfe's awkward stage.

We're now just waiting for Von Steubens to arrive, and for the dykes to breach, the dams give way, and the ship of State to be rudderless as the naked Blighs on the foredeck are recognized as having lost grasp of the tiller.

It is a really ripe time.

It is not a surprise to me that the officers of tyranny are afraid. They have lost the initiative, and they have lost control of the crest of the imagination of the people.

That's how it works.

What, really, is the real question that each shuddering overthrow of the State must ask?

It's a simple one, but critical.

Who is able and willing to shoot back?

Bikers are. Three piece patch holders will go first.

Oathkeepers are. Three Percenters will go first.

Veterans are. They will coalesce around insurgent first responders.

(And as an aside, "oppositionally defiant veterans" will probably catch on in some form or another, just like "microaggressions" has.)

The mass of the people are, once there's enough hope instead of despair and they have decided in the immutable wisdom of humans to become a crowd, instead of a group.

Weirdly, and kind of interestingly, it follows a path identical to the emergence of filamentary structures. Just an odd way the universe seems to arrange itself in this sort of thing when you look at infection and pivots and initiative and systemic collapse. (Compare here, here and here for an example of what I refer to.)

It all comes down to some really odd and funny stuff sometimes. The above groups and their fundamental ideologies and skills and motivations are really just ingredients. It's the spark of imagination that really lights the fire. Sometimes that spark is silly on the surface, like make believe Indians throwing tea out of boats. Or The Donald making outrageously true, and truly outrageous, statements and not backing down. Or nine arrogant old people in black robes declaring that all of human history is wrong, because well haters.

Like I said, it's an interesting time. Yes, I know that's an old curse to fling. But like an honest biker would say...

DILLIGAF. And it is what it is.

Just my $.02.

Gentlemen, start your engines. I'll see you on the road.

Let's keep it shiny side up out there.

Much love to my fellow Americans,

- RT "Asskiller"

Yeah, that's an actual road name. Has to do with livestock and midnight T-boning at speed. Broken wings, and all that. But that's a story for another time.
172 posted on 07/10/2015 6:55:51 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: Robert Teesdale

“Who is able and willing to shoot back? Bikers are.”

Apparently you missed the coverage in Waco. The BIKERS did not shoot back.

The bikers shot first.

It was over in seconds as over a hundred bikers scrambled to hide their guns.


173 posted on 07/10/2015 7:17:44 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Robert Teesdale

You left out the:

Crips

Bloods

New Black Panthers


174 posted on 07/10/2015 7:19:19 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Robert Teesdale

You need to rewrite this so that it is more impartial and less you-oriented (a good editorialist never mentions his existence, such as “I feel..” or “I noticed...”).

Then you need to submit this to many locations. Web opinion blogs, facebook, and places like that. And you need to make this a stand alone Freeper Editorial.

Do it. Do it now. Contact me for methods of distribution.

Do it or YOU BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM.


176 posted on 07/10/2015 7:21:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (NoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNOnoNoNoNO)
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To: Robert Teesdale

“We settle our internal differences, for the most part, with words and votes in this country rather than open gunfire and ideologically driven acts of murder. It’s a good system, and one that has served us well as a people.

But all sides have to agree to that practice.”

LOL! Tell that to the OMG’s .........


177 posted on 07/10/2015 7:23:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Robert Teesdale

Adversity employs great talents; prosperity renders them useless and carries the inept, the corrupted wealthy and the wicked to the top

May they bear in mind that virtue often contains the seeds of tyranny

May they bear in mind that it is neither gold nor even a multitude of arms that sustains a state but its morals

May each of them keep in his house, in a corner of this field, next to his workbench, next to his plow, his gun, his sword, and his bayonet

May they all be soldiers

May they bear in mind that in circumstances where deliberation is possible, the advice of old men is good but that in moments of crisis youth is generally better informed that its elders

Denis Diderot

Apostrophe to the Insurgents, 1782


192 posted on 07/10/2015 8:03:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Robert Teesdale

I approve of this message.


193 posted on 07/10/2015 8:06:41 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Robert Teesdale
Charlton Heston's closing remarks at the 2000 NRA annual meeting in Charlotte North Carolina -- "From MY Cold Dead Hands" speech.


Every time our country stands in the path of danger, an instinct seems to summon her finest first -- those who truly understand her.

When freedom shivers in the cold shadow of true peril, it's always the patriots who first hear the call.

When loss of liberty is looming, as it is now, the siren sounds first in the hearts of freedom's vanguard. The smoke in the air of our Concord bridges and Pearl Harbors is always smelled first by the farmers, who come from their simple homes to find the fire, and fight, because they know that sacred stuff resides in that wooden stock and blued steel -- something that gives the most common man the most uncommon of freedoms.

When ordinary hands can possess such an extraordinary instrument, that symbolizes the full measure of human dignity and liberty. That's why those five words issue an irresistible call to us all, and we muster. So -- so, as, ah, we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take freedom away, I want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed -- and especially for you, Mister Gore: From my cold dead hands!



194 posted on 07/10/2015 8:14:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Robert Teesdale; X-spurt; Finny; wardaddy; Boomer; Bidimus1; PA Engineer; null and void; don-o; ...
"There are some very, very smart and grimly organized men who believe with their entire spirit that freedom is better than slavery; that the Leviathan is truly uncoiled and on the rampage; and that Death is not the worst of evils."

How interesting and timely that you should post that paraphrase in your thoughtful and right-on-point #172!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As my FRName implies, this Texan was "voluntarily exiled" in the liberal State immediately south of New Hampshire for two decades, and I grew to admire NH's ubiquitously-visible motto, "Live Free or Die!".

Serendipitously, two of my granddaughters just returned from a visit to New Hampshire, (and Concord, its capital) and, while there, they learned (and, then, conveyed to me on their return to Texas) the complete quotation from which the NH motto is taken.

Per the NH State law establishing the motto (emphases mine...):

State Motto. The words "Live Free or Die," written by General John Stark, July 31, 1809, shall be the official motto of the state.

It was the 1945 Legislature that gave New Hampshire its official motto and emblem, as World War II approached a successful end.

The motto became "Live Free Or Die," as once voiced by General John Stark, the state’s most distinguished hero of the Revolutionary War, and the world famous Old Man of the Mountain was voted the official state emblem.

The motto was part of a volunteer toast which General Stark sent to his wartime comrades, in which he declined an invitation to head up a 32nd anniversary reunion of the 1777 Battle of Bennington in Vermont, because of poor health. The toast said in full: "Live Free Or Die; Death Is Not The Worst of Evils." The following year, a similar invitation (also declined) said: "The toast, sir, which you sent us in 1809 will continue to vibrate with unceasing pleasure in our ears,

"Live Free Or Die;
Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils."

New Hampshire Revised Statutes Annotated (RSA) 3:1, 8 Anderson, Leon. History. Manual for the General Court 1981. Moore, Howard Parker. A Life of General John Stark of New Hampshire. Howard Parker Moore author and publisher, c.1949.

That full motto should serve well all those who love our Constitution (whether they be Oathkeepers, Veterans, or, simply Patriotic Americans) and who abhor the reprehensible regime which is currently destroying our beloved Nation.

As for me, as a Texan, my feelings toward my State are expressed in my Tagline, below.

And, wherever in our Nation I go, my personal motto can be expressed with this 1835 Texian flag:


Nicely done, Sir!

"Live Free Or Die;
Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils."

199 posted on 07/10/2015 9:02:07 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: Robert Teesdale
Good write-up Robert.

I think one thing you're missing though, is that the Powers That Be have managed, through careful indoctrination and propaganda efforts, to just about evenly split this country right in half. It's not the old north/south divide, and is not really even a rural/city split, though that is closer to the mark than most. Rather, it is a split of ideologies and worldviews. Try talking to a diehard leftist about just about anything, and you'll see that they really do not live in the same reality that you do.

To them, their world and perceptions make complete sense, just like yours do to you. Even something as basic as language has been twisted to fit the leftist agenda. We see a little bleed-over of this with made up concepts like "microagression", and "white privilege", but most of us really don't see the whole of it, unless we're unfortunate enough to be an unwilling prisoner in a leftist stronghold. Because they use and attach different meanings to common words, they will draw entirely different, and to us, non-sensical conclusions given the same set of facts, or the same description of different events.

That's one of the things that is going to cause the most problems when we truely leave the 'awkward stage', because both 'sides' see this from such grossly different perspectives. I've seen many conservatives write about the "us having all the guns" because the leftists are such ardent gun-control activists. Well, that's not really the case at all. As in so many things, what they really mean when they say they want to get guns off the street, is not that they want to be disarmed. What they really mean is they want to take guns away from the wrong people (in their mind) - mostly that's us, and minorities, because of the racism their worldview is so thoroughly steeped in.

Take a look at some "anarchist" sites, and you'll see them talking about being armed up to the teeth, and the wilder bunches are really into blowing things up. This has been true for a long time. (Weathermen anyone?)

For the establishment, things get really tricky. While the leftists will use the full power of the state to destroy any opposition to their policies, no matter how small, their more militant brethren are really more interested in chaos than anything else.  So, they'll have no problem at all with attacking infrastructure elements, and LE or military types when they can get away with it, they'd take it amiss if folks started popping off EPA, BATFags, or any of the favored stalinists agencies of the left as seen in Unintended Consequences.

Things will get right interesting when everything finally falls into the crapper. The Feral government has done a pretty good job protecting themselves so far, but when things really devolve, the video cameras they've placed everywere to monitor and control things aren't really going to be especially useful for them.

Some of this is spoken to in a vanity I posted a while back: Police and Society in America

We're in for interesting times, and I don't know how it will all shake out in the end.

205 posted on 07/10/2015 10:11:38 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Thanks for the excellent post.


206 posted on 07/10/2015 10:29:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Well stated. Actually quite succinct.


212 posted on 07/10/2015 1:00:42 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Robert Teesdale

You have my expression of thanks too. Well rested indeed! Hope you had a good ride.


215 posted on 07/10/2015 1:09:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Robert Teesdale

Two cents? I’d say about $200 worth.


326 posted on 07/13/2015 10:40:28 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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