Don't Give Up On America

Townhall.com ^ | July 3, 2015 | David Limbaugh

[Kaslin]

As I've said, I was very alarmed, though not particularly surprised, by the two Supreme Court decisions last week in which the court's majority blithely bastardized the English language, the Constitution, the rule of law and the very idea of truth in order to further advance the progressive agenda in this nation.

But what troubles me more than the court's betrayal of its duty to safeguard the Constitution and the rule of law is the apparent complacency among the public about these decisions and the radical shifts we are witnessing in our culture.

Why do some seem resigned to the transformation of our society? Why have they surrendered? Do they strongly believe in anything anymore? Do they not understand the implications for the future of this nation -- if not for themselves, for their children?

We all seem to agree that to a great extent politics flows downstream from culture. The problem for conservatives is that the left understands this better than we do. They long ago took over our major cultural institutions, indoctrinating society through the schools, universities, media and Hollywood to their anti-tradition and radically secular ideas.

It has been a brilliant, grand deception because the left's ideas are anything other than the salt and light they present them to be. They offer themselves as tolerant, inclusive, compassionate and morally superior decriers of "hate." Yet they are the intolerant and often bitterly hateful ones who are trying to suppress opposing voices and who demonize everyone who dares disagree with their positions.

Leftists have been denigrating America's history, culture and values and denying it. But don't you dare suggest they don't love the country they have spent so much energy trashing and trying to fundamentally change.

They have insisted they just want the freedom to live and let live; they just want equal rights. In no way do they mean to encroach on other people's rights. They are harmless, seeking only an equal seat at the table.

Yet across the board their actions contradict their words, and their subsequent positions flagrantly breach their promises and assurances.

In economic policy, the founding American ideal of equal opportunity is no longer enough for them. By itself, it is inherently unfair, because some people have more talent, better connections or a privileged race or gender status. So they demand equal or more equitable outcomes. They use the tax code, administrative regulations and unconstitutional legislation to even the score. But isn't something screamingly wrong and unsustainable about a society whose lower half of income earners pay zero income taxes?

On same-sex marriage, gay activists said they only wanted equal recognition and an equal right to marry. They wouldn't dream of encroaching on the religious liberties of Christians. How quickly their true intentions emerged once they scored their Supreme Court victory. They were never going to be satisfied merely with a lawless Supreme Court decision forcing states to accept their redefinition of marriage. They are determined to use the power of the state and economic coercion to neuter and punish dissenters.

Leftists are not about live and let live. They are about wholesale control. Their movers and shakers see society as their project, and they can change everything and everyone through government and their domination of the culture. There is no live and let live in their bones.

In view of all this, it is amazing that so many conservatives, traditionalists and Christians are blind to the hostile, aggressive and unquenchable appetite of the leftist movement. It is chilling to me that they don't realize this trend is going to continue until there is either a cultural or legal confrontation or the left stamps out all dissent. The left is never satisfied even with winning; they must stomp out the opposition. Just look at what they've done to the Christian businesses with which they gratuitously picked a fight over same-sex marriage. Look at the concentrated assault on Donald Trump, even if you don't agree with some of his statements. Look at what they do to anyone who doesn't comply with their 1984-ishness.

I repeat: Is our side asleep? Have they given up? Are they numb? Do they care? Are they cowards? Would they rather be thought of as wonderful and tolerant by these intolerant people than stand up for what they believe in? Or do they believe in much of anything anymore?

I find it inconceivable that in the past five years Americans' opinions concerning same-sex marriage have changed as drastically as certain polls and commentators suggest. It's as if because President Obama came out and admitted he favors same-sex marriage, everyone else is compelled to agree. Even if the polls show this, I don't believe a majority yet accepts, in its heart of hearts, that same-sex marriage is the way to go. My suspicion is that it's more a reflection of the bullying and propaganda than a societal change of heart.

Could I be wrong on this? Could society be that fickle -- so apathetic about serious issues that they can turn on a dime? I'm not buying it. But I do believe people increasingly lack the courage to voice dissenting opinions against the politically correct position.

But I haven't given up hope. We can't give up on America. I don't believe American conservatism and traditional values are dead, but they are very, very sick. They need a doctor -- in the form of a fearless proponent of our ideas, which spawned the greatest nation in history and can help to bring it back. During this chaotic GOP primary process, hopefully a leader will emerge who believes in America and can inspire like-minded people toward a political revival. In the meantime, a spiritual revival in our culture is long overdue.

May God not give up on but once again bless America.

[Yosemitest]

Interpretation?
I believe the Bible [Authorized (King James) Version] and I think most of your predictions are true.
The Bible really is a great book for understanding the past and the future.
You should give it some serious thought, and be your OWN analyzer.
A good REFERENCE Bible is a good start, and the cross-references will lead to the Bible INTERPRETING itself.
I don't push a denomination, so much as I push the Bible and the God that wrote it.

But I'm just a student.
So what do I know ?

[Bryanw92]

>>Interpretation?

Yes. I study the bible as well, but I recognize that once we get into the area of interpreting OT prophecy to match our contemporary times, we tread on contested ground. Biblical scholars disagree on these things in a variety of ways. You interpret Ezekiel as a prophecy of things to come. Others, who are also spirit-led, see it as a prophecy that has already come to pass.

But know this, prophets deliver prophecy to the people who will be affected by it. Ezekiel did not prophesy to 21st century America because he was speaking to the Jews. John delivered the prophecy for those who lived after Christ’s resurrection. There will be no return to greatness for the secular kingdom of the United States. It will pass into history as all great nations have done. Something great may rise out of the ashes of the USA, but that may take a generation or two.

Or Jesus will return first.

Either way, there is no bright future for this country.

[Yosemitest]

"Ezekiel did not prophesy to 21st century America because he was speaking to the Jews."

I think you need to read Ezekiel AGAIN.

"The House of Israel", ("the time of Jacob’s trouble") is NOT "The House of Judah".
For more on the subject read Jews At War With Israel.
And "The House of Israel" is NOT Jewish.

Consider Ezekiel 3:8-9 and Eze.6:6.
Do yup seriously believe that this has already happened, or is this describing the events just before the "Battle of Armageddon" ?
Consider Eze.33:32-33 or for that matter all of Ezekiel 33.
I suggest to you that this "VISION OF THE FUTURE" from EZEKIEL's day, described in Ezekiel 33, is yet to happen.

[Bryanw92]

>>I suggest to you that this “VISION OF THE FUTURE” from EZEKIEL’s day, described in Ezekiel 33, is yet to happen.

OK. So what are we supposed to do according to the prophecy?

[Yosemitest]

No.
It's a prediction that we WILL NOT OBEY God,
and it's a WARNING that this will happen BECAUSE we WILL NOT OBEY GOD.

What we're SUPPOSE TO DO is REPENT, BELIEVE GOD, and OBEY GOD !

[Bryanw92]

>>What we’re SUPPOSE TO DO is REPENT, BELIEVE GOD, and OBEY GOD !

God wasted a prophecy on that? He knew the the people of Israel would never do that, and he knows that America won’t either.

A large majority of Americans do not and will not repent, believe, and obey. Even the Progs who claim to be Christian would say that obeying God is fighting for gay marriage. Their minds will not be changed, but they will employ every tactic in the book to make us change ours, submit, or at least shut up.

[Yosemitest]

Satan has his ways to deceive.
Some WILL, and some WON'T .
It's an INDIVIDUAL CHOICE .
But GOD's ELECT will NOT be MOVED.

[Bryanw92]

>>But GOD’s ELECT will NOT be MOVED.

I’m glad you put it that way. My non-Calvinist friends tell me that Calvinism is cruel and paints God as exclusionary, but I think that the times we live prove out the theology of Calvin, who recognized that some (most??) people are incapable of going to Jesus because they are fundamentally different.

[zeestephen]

I live near Seattle, in a town that is 35% foreign born, and votes 75% Democrat. It's peaceful, quiet, clean, and moderately affluent (or was, until our Leftist city and county councils began to flood us with public housing for low income and Section 8 Blacks).

Besides Jeff Sessions and Steve King from Iowa, there are no elected Republicans in the country (with name recognition) who care about the political consequences of massive LEGAL immigration.

Besides Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin (both near or past age 50), Pat Buchanan (near 80), and Phyllis Schlafly (past 90), there are almost no Conservative editorialists who care about the political consequences of massive LEGAL immigration.

Bottom Line - when naturalized immigrant voters begin to turn out to vote at the same rate white Conservatives vote, the game is up. Democrats will take permanent political control of the White House, the Congress, and the Supreme Court.

And, as far as I can see, there is no national mandate and no national sense of urgency in the Republican Party to stop the oncoming political catastrophe.

[Yosemitest]

"... when naturalized immigrant voters begin to turn out to vote at the same rate white Conservatives vote, the game is up."

Some believe the game is ALREADY up", but for DIFFERENT REASONS.

Someone once wrote:
"Stolen?
Then you should get right on this and prove it."
First watch 8 minutes 16 seconds of video titled Romney defeated Obama - if not for voter fraud.

Then ... read and think about this. Someone wrote:

"I believe there was voting fraud,
but that it was not the reason Romney lost.
Even without fraud he would still have lost. "
I don't completely agree.

Someone said, "We’re not victims or battered wives as someone else suggested"
Playing the victim? Really?

Yes we had a weak field.
Only about 38 percent of the Republicans supported Romney in the Primary.
So 62 percent voted AGAINST "Establishment Republican" Romney.
Who was it that dumped all those negative adds on Conservative Candidates in the primary?
Who was it that constantly battered each leading Conservative in the primary with an average of three to one negative ads against our real candidates?
Who's money was dumped against the conservative choices?

Victim? Do you really believe that Romney got ZERO votes in 68 Precincts?
Odd? Romney Got ZERO Votes In 59 Precincts in Philly, and 9 Precincts in Ohio
Do you really believe it was an accident that when some people voted for Republican candidate Mitt Romney, the machine appeared to change it to the Democrat candidate Barack Obama?

I believe there WAS ENOUGH Voter Fraud to throw the 80 Electoral College Votes from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Florida.
I also believe that had Romney SAVAGED Obama, like he SAVAGED the Conservatives that ran against him in the Primary,
Romney would have gotten more votes in the General election.
So yes, it's Romney's fault, but there WAS ENOUGH VOTER FRAUD to steal the election for Obama.

Why Are N.C. Early Voting Machines Changing Romney Votes to Obama?

More Electronic Voting Machines Changing Romney Votes to Obama: We Looked Into It and Here’s What a Vendor Told Us
Do you really believe that Democrats didn't intentionally vote more than once for Obama?
Read more: Voter watchdog says it's uncovered absentee ballot fraud in Florida, New York

Denying being a victim of voter fraud doesn't help.
But getting the criminal enterprise of the Obama Judicial System to prosecute the guilty who stole this election, is a lost cause.
Remember, it doesn't matter who has the votes, it matters who COUNTS the votes.
Obama ordered ACORN Steals Votes For him during presidential run.



"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who COUNT the votes."


(Josef Stalin)
URGENT: ELECTION FRAUD VOLUNTEERS NEEDED IN WI, OH, PA, VA, FL

Maker of Unskewed Polls Creates ‘Obama Voter Fraud’ Map — See Which States He Thinks Should’ve Been Romney’s

Why There Won’t Be a Presidential Recount

None Dare Call it Stolen Ohio, the election, and America’s servile press

www.unskewedpolls.com

Black States = States Obama won by Voter Fraud. Click the state for more information.

Voter Turnout figures for 2012 indicate possible voter suppression and fraud

Vote Scamming in Philadelphia

Vote Scamming in Cleveland

Was Virginia won by vote fraud?

Vote Scamming in Florida

Question: Should President Romney Pardon Treasonist Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro ?


BREAKING NEW VIDEO: Battleground Texas Illegally Copying Voter Data ( 7:11 ) Feb 19, 2014


Romney might have won, but with Obama's Criminals running the "Justice Department", they'll never admit Romney won.

Black States = States Obama won by Voter Fraud. Click the state for more information.




Photo Credit: Barackofraudo.com

[timestax]

bttt

[Vision Thing]

God has given up on the empty libhole demonicrat states, not the stable prosperous normal conservative states.

[Jacquerie]

On this Independence Day, the Walter Mitty Rambos at FR calling for CWII claim to cite our revolutionary founders.

<> I’m going to start putting more time into the convention of states beyond that I don’t know what else there is beyond pain and endurance.<>

Finally a voice of reason.

The founders exhausted all peaceful means to reconcile the colonies' differences with Great Britain before they turned to violence.

Our constitution formally recognizes the right of the people to peacefully alter our form of government. We must take advantage of this gift.

History will not look well upon a people who gaffed off their duty to reform their government before they rolled the dice of revolution.

[antidisestablishment]

Can one or more of you rational types please explain to this ignorant, uneducated, old man how amending a Constitution that the government regularly ignores in its entirety, is going to work? I have heard all the wonderful descriptions of how inherently wholesome processes will ensure that only rational changes make it through and only true American values will be able to be reflected in the outcomes. Let me just skip all of that and agree to the best of your propositions.

So now we have Constitution vII, divinely inspired and true. Can this old and ignorant man propose a simple fact? Constitutions are not usurped by revolution; they are not relegated to dustbins by process. They are simply ignored in practice. Once action begins, plans change to intent.

The intent of this government is evil. Our leaders are amoral; our children are taught lies and the entire country is speeding toward immorality. The only choice left is which side you support. It is no longer a matter of fixing the rules; it is a matter of fixing people. It was never a political battle. It is a spiritual war.

[Bryanw92]

>>On this Independence Day, the Walter Mitty Rambos at FR calling for CWII claim to cite our revolutionary founders.

Since you named me in the To: field, I assume you lump me in with the Walter Mitty Rambos. You are very, very wrong.

I don’t believe that we an fix this country by voting for the “right” candidates because the system will change them or ignore them.

I don’t believe in the Supreme Court to correct legislative errors anymore.

I don’t believe that there will ever be a popular citizen uprising to “retake” the country.

I know that that there will never be a convention of states. At least, I hope there isn’t because the Progs are better organized and better suited to push their message through, so any CoS will result in the eradication of the 2nd Amendment (and severe curtailments of the rest of the Bill of Rights).

All there will be is a slide into Marxism and totalitarianism and we will suffer through pain and endurance. After three or four generations, those people will get sick of it and end it.

Any call for revolution that you see from me is purely sarcastic since the modern American would say, “We have to do the revolution next Saturday after 1pm because I have a ton of things to do at work and a tee time of 8 am Saturday. We need to be done by Sunday afternoon because I promised the kids that we’d take the boat out after church.”

[Jacquerie]

James Madison famously defined tyranny as the collection of legislative, executive, and judicial powers in the hands of one, few, or many. That is exactly what we have in DC, increasingly concentrated power in the exec and judiciary. Since the concentration of power is the problem, the answer is to decentralize it.

Well, decentralization of power was exactly what the framers provided for in 1787. It is what was foolishly given away in 1913 via the 17th Amendment.

The only worthwhile amendments are therefore structural, those that decentralize power and cannot be ignored without formal repudiation of the constitution and de-facto establishment of a tyrant.

Despite galloping tyranny and thorough corruption of every ruling (not governing) institution in DC, the faux republic of the United States will continue to abide by its constitutionally commanded structure, meaning it will hold even year elections, it will continue the House, Senate, Presidency, Judiciary, limit the president to two terms, reps to two and “senators” to six year terms. The faux US republic will not bring back slavery, stop women or blacks over 18 years of age from voting. These are hardwired, structural aspects of our government that cannot be disregarded or lawyered away.

Given the above, how for instance could repeal of the 17th Amendment be ignored? With repeal, the internal contradiction of a constitution that acts on one of its two broad classes of members (people and states), yet denies that one class of members representation would be cured. Power would immediately be diffused across fifty states. Say adios to anti-10th amendment lawyers seeking federal judgeships.

Here is something else: The states will send delegates to an Article V convention. Delegates will be agents of their states with strict commissions to consider certain amendments and no more. The states will not send reps with plenary powers.

Like a homosexual drag queen who puts on makeup, a dress and high heels pretending to be a woman, what we have today is tyranny in the drag of a republic.

All of our institutions in DC have been corrupted into forms that work to purposes that are opposite of their constitutional designs. Congress hardly legislates at all, while the executive and judiciary wallow in arbitrary unconstitutional lawmaking. Consider the three Scotus decisions last week. Taken together and added to eighty years of similar assaults on freedom, Scotus effectively repealed self-government.

If we are to reestablish free republican liberty, we must address the corruption, and the source of it is the 17th Amendment. I'll go further and say that every freeper should review Mark Levin's suggested amendments, for they would further decentralize the powers that DC has stolen from the people and our states.

Back in the 1780s those stupid, breeches clad, slave owning white dudes recognized the shortcomings of an only six year old confederacy and sought to correct them. Contrast that to America 2015 that is too smart to correct the horrible mistake of the 17th Amendment. We'll bring back booze, but not a federal government.

It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when REAL TYRANNY IS HERE.

[Bryanw92]

>>Here is something else: The states will send delegates to an Article V convention. Delegates will be agents of their states with strict commissions to consider certain amendments and no more. The states will not send reps with plenary powers.

So they’re just there to talk. Its like the internet...in person!

>>It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when REAL TYRANNY IS HERE.

It is equally silly to think that a convention would do anything but increase the power of the tyranny. As you say, REAL TYRANNY IS HERE. Tyrants don’t let people vote away their power. (Hint: the tyrants are not elected officials. They are judges, bankers, CEOs, media moguls, billionaires, and somewhere in that group is a person or persons who are calling the shots. Our Constitution and your convention means nothing to them.)

[gdzla]

I admire your steadfast conviction to hold onto what may not exist anymore. Resign yourself to to a life of tax slavery. As for myself I will vote with my feet.

[x_plus_one]

America is shifting around like oil and water. Target rich environments like the US capital and megacities are not the place to be if you prefer a future.

[antidisestablishment]

I don’t fear the outcome of the convention, I just don’t see that it will correct the absolute tyranny that is Washington.

We are no longer a republic. We no longer have states. The populace is not only ignorant, but obstinately so. Over 80% will now tell you that America is a democracy and those are the engaged Americans. They will further explain how a Republic is anti-democratic by nature and will call for an end of the electoral college.

If you think that you can inculcate a desire for Federalism in this country, I don’t think you know or understand your country anymore. Your countrymen are modern liberals at the core. They all desire the nanny state—the only argument is who should be in control.

FR is a tiny faction. You cannot extrapolate anything from this board. And even if you could less than 10% of FReepers ever participate in any activism. I’ve done the Republican Shuffle and the Tea Party Two-Step. Hell, we put Rubio into Congress and he left us quicker than a two-dollar whore!

I’ve been on executive committees and participated in state conventions. It’s all corruption all the time. I, and many others like me, are done with American politics.

I will work with my God and my church to change lives. Radically committed Christians who are willing to die for truth. That is my goal. That is what we are called to. God bless America!