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Going with the Flow ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | 2 July 2015 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/02/2015 12:28:33 AM PDT by Rummyfan

I started the day on Bill Bennett's radio show, which is always fun. Jonah Goldberg was on before me, and advanced the proposition, after the Supreme Court's almighty constitutional bender last week, that it wasn't so bad; conservatives who just pottered around in their own world and tended to their families would still be able to lead lives largely unbattered by the forces of "progress". A few minutes later, one of Bill's listeners, Claudine, came on and said that's what Germans reckoned in the 1930s: just keep your head down and the storm will pass. How'd that work out?

Claudine had the better of the argument, I think. Most of us are not cut out to swim against the tide. For one thing, it's exhausting. Tides ebb and flow, and it's easier just to go with it. In Germany, maybe if your very best pal was Jewish, you'd say something. But, if it's just the greengrocer or the elderly couple in the second-floor flat that you nod to on the stairs, do you really want to make a fuss and have arguments with your family and friends all the time? Isn't it easier just to say nothing?

In the end, most people want to be like most people. That's why they tell you the weekend movie grosses on the Monday morning news and put the Top Ten bestsellers at the front of Barnes & Noble - so that you can like what everybody else likes.

So I find the idea that tens of millions of American "traditionalist" conservatives are going to lead their own lives immune to the broader culture somewhat unlikely. Were the same-sex marriage decision, for example, merely a judicial ruling, Barack Obama would not have lit up the White House in LGBT rainbow colors.

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1 posted on 07/02/2015 12:28:33 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: JLS

Ping!


2 posted on 07/02/2015 12:36:22 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong X Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: Rummyfan

I spent about and hour and a half with my Congressman this afternoon. He was always known as very conservative and religious. Very pro-life, very pro-traditional everything.

He’s only been in DC 6 months. He’s gained about 100 lbs and looks totally stressed. Sleeping in his office; showering in the house gym; eating out every meal.

I asked him what can be done about the gay marriage problem, and he point blank said that his constituency doesn’t care about it. He says that he has long dreamed of finding a billionaire, conservative backer who could mount a campaign to put the moral fiber back in America — to counter the brainwashing of the children in our schools.

He says there is nobody, and his wealthy backers say up front that none of them care about gay marriage. I’m discouraged.


3 posted on 07/02/2015 12:37:02 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Rummyfan
Instead of launching another radio show or news aggregator or think-tank, never mind obsessing over whether Jeb or Jindal or Christie will play better in Iowa, we need to make like the Islamic mullahs and the sex mullahs and start competing for the space where people actually live.

Sounds good, but I'm not sure what that would mean in practice.

4 posted on 07/02/2015 1:12:26 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Rummyfan
Nathan Bedford's third Maxim of American politics: culture trumps politics and bottom-up beats top-down.


5 posted on 07/02/2015 2:09:21 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Rummyfan
Nathan Bedford's third Maxim of American politics: culture trumps politics and bottom-up beats top-down.


6 posted on 07/02/2015 2:09:21 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Rummyfan
Rise with the tide

go with the flow

get your head battered

and sink like a stone..


7 posted on 07/02/2015 2:12:39 AM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: Rummyfan

“....conservatives have spent the supposed “end of history” winning a zillion elections, and losing everything that matters.”


8 posted on 07/02/2015 3:25:32 AM PDT by John W (Less Than Two Years of ISIS Best Friend Left)
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To: Rummyfan

Law of the land! Law of the land! Move on! Bipartisan! Squawk!


9 posted on 07/02/2015 3:31:35 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Rummyfan
there are no conservatives, only liberals of varying degrees of political allegiance, liberal right-wing, liberal-centralists and liberal left-wing
10 posted on 07/02/2015 3:36:43 AM PDT by B212
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn ‘gets it’ like no one else!

Oh, there are plenty of us who, in good conscience, can not, will not go with the flow.

Corrie ten Boom is one (of many) of my spiritual mentors.
I never met her.....I’ve only read and heard about her....
But if I can only have an ounce of her courage, passion and faith, I would consider myself blessed indeed.

The time is coming.......actually is now here....when all of us need to decide where we stand.


11 posted on 07/02/2015 3:37:56 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: B212

Prove your thesis.


12 posted on 07/02/2015 3:44:15 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Rummyfan
I don't want to wind up with a choice between the twin totalitarianisms of soulless state-regulated hyper-sexualized semi-tyranny and sharia - because, if that's what it comes down to, I know who'll win. But conservatives have spent the supposed "end of history" winning a zillion elections, and losing everything that matters. To most of the so-called millennials, conservatism is entirely invisible except as a Jon Stewart punchline - and that invisibility was largely our choice. Instead of launching another radio show or news aggregator or think-tank, never mind obsessing over whether Jeb or Jindal or Christie will play better in Iowa, we need to make like the Islamic mullahs and the sex mullahs and start competing for the space where people actually live.
13 posted on 07/02/2015 3:56:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He says there is nobody, and his wealthy backers say up front that none of them care about gay marriage. I’m discouraged.

...

When he says his “constituency”, does he mean the rank and file or his wealthy backers?

Big corporations could care less about morality and what’s best for America.


14 posted on 07/02/2015 3:57:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Rummyfan
Jonah Goldberg was on before me, and advanced the proposition, after the Supreme Court's almighty constitutional bender last week, that it wasn't so bad; conservatives who just pottered around in their own world and tended to their families would still be able to lead lives largely unbattered by the forces of "progress".

Jonah Goldberg said this.

JONAH GOLDBERG.

15 posted on 07/02/2015 4:07:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Moonman62

If his wealthy backers “don’t care”, why not vote with his constituents who do care?

Again, we see people asking the left for permission. That has never worked and never will. Pre-emptive surrender is not a viable strategy.

I am convinced that we are at the stage where we are at least going to need to face the fire hoses of the Bull Connors of the left. Instead we mewl about “law of the land” and go on feeding the monster.


16 posted on 07/02/2015 4:07:21 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Profile in cowardice. He’s no leader.


17 posted on 07/02/2015 4:14:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Rummyfan

it’s telling you that these guys mean it - and they’ve figured out that you don’t.

That’s really it in a nutshell.


18 posted on 07/02/2015 4:49:02 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Steyn pointed out that the Left destroyed the Boy Scouts, THE BOY SCOUTS, in less than twenty years.

Several Christian denominations are going with the fag marriage flow.

Businesses are making accommodations for muzzie worship during the work day. Maybe one or two percent participate now. If the European experience is our future, most of the office goes muzzie very soon.

Despite what people say, most want to be accepted in their group.

Since God and teaching His Commandments as well as our constitution have been banned from schools and the public square, slavery is our future.

19 posted on 07/02/2015 4:54:59 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: TChad
we need to ... start competing for the space where people actually live.

Sounds good, but I'm not sure what that would mean in practice.

This is true and it will be something that is a work in process that needs to be continually refined and improved upon. I came across this article (long) at NR this morning. I think this is a part of competing in 'the space where people actually live' ...

The Unlikely Traditionalism of Millionaire Matchmaker Patti Stanger

20 posted on 07/02/2015 5:40:20 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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