Posted on 07/01/2015 6:33:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
On a slow news day, it was either this or the fact that Twitter’s blowing up right now over the NYT’s suggestion that peas would make a fine addition to guacamole. Since only one of those stories has seeped into other major newspapers (so far), that’s the one I’m blogging. Although, for the record, I like peas and think they’d be an intriguing, if not necessarily triumphant, ingredient in guac from a textural perspective. Let’s not wet ourselves over experimental recipes after we, as a people, just got done spending two weeks debating the pros and cons of pizza with cocktail weenies in place of the crust, okay?
As for this guy and his sign, he’s a lefty dream come true insofar as he’s threatening to refuse service to gays as a rule, not just in the specific context of a wedding. Other businesses, like Memories Pizza in Indiana, made a point of stressing that their problem with gay marriage is specific to marriage. Their faith says it’s reserved for one man and one woman so they can’t in good conscience participate in a ceremony celebrating another form, but it doesn’t say they can’t do business with gays in other contexts. Not this guy. He cleaned up his message a bit after the media started dialing him up — now his sign says he refuses the right to serve people who don’t recognize his freedom of religion — but if you’re a gay-rights activist eager to argue that letting people refuse service to gay marriages will lead to service being refused to gays generally, here you go. I’m curious to see how much grassroots support he gets if/when the now familiar cycle of media coverage followed by nasty threats followed by his business closing for a few days followed by a Kickstarter to help him offset the costs of lost revenue plays out. If you’re a libertarian who opposes antidiscrimination laws in principle, because you feel market solutions are a better way to punish prejudice than handing the government power to tinker with freedom of association, you’re on his side. If you aren’t, you (probably) aren’t.
The most perennially interesting thing to me about these “random person not down with gay marriage” news stories is how they subtly undercut the argument against religious exemptions to antidiscrimination laws within the narrow context of gay marriage. Antidiscrimination laws are most valuable when there’s widespread prejudice in local public accommodations; if the entire city’s willing to refuse service to you if you’re black or gay, you may have no convenient alternatives for the services you seek. You’re frozen out comprehensively and no one thinks much of anything about it. The fact, though, that local news outlets now treat the mere possibility that a gay customer might be refused service by a local business as newsworthy suggests that that wider see-no-evil attitude isn’t operating here. The media’s helping bring to bear public pressure on holdouts, just as the libertarian model for fighting discrimination imagines. Maybe that would change if you created an exemption for religious conscience; maybe there are huge numbers of religious business owners who want to refuse service to gays but are afraid of the law right now, and who would indulge themselves if the law looked the other way. In that case, there’d be too many holdouts for the media to highlight all of them. As far as I know, though, outside of Tennessee’s major cities, it’s legal in that state to discriminate gays just as this guy is doing. If the law is the only thing holding most religious business owners back from discriminating, how to explain the fact that this guy is so evidently so much of an outlier that merely posting a sign is worthy of 6 p.m. coverage?
“gays” ...... homosexualists?
Right you are. Does he interrogate all his customers about their sex lives? Does he refuse to serve adulterers, and how would he know without asking?
While moving across country years ago I was refused a motel room unless I agreed to pay for 2 nights because I’m a woman. The proprietor explained this was allowed by city ordinance, and was applicable to any woman seeking a hotel room, due to problems with prostitution along that stretch of interstate. My car was full of luggage and one sleepy child, and I was exhausted and nearly asleep at the wheel. I could have sued and won, but was too tired to argue so just moved on.
Your post makes no sense. It’s deliberately vague, why?
It should say “No faggots allowed”.
“now his sign says he refuses the right to serve people who don’t recognize his freedom of religion”
Perhaps something like this sign should go up in ever Christian’s store. to draw a line in the sand.
Do not respect our religious believes and we won’t work with you.
Can’t bakeries and photographers just say they are booked up for that date and can’t take on anymore business?
“This guy’s stupid sign will hurt the cause of religious freedom because it will be seen as “proof” that Christians just want to discriminate against homosexuals for no good reason.”
In a nutshell.
This tantrum will hurt the larger cause, not help it.
But they wouldn’t DARE go after a Muslim business - would they?
“now his sign says he refuses the right to serve people who don’t recognize his freedom of religion”
That makes no sense at all unless you change the word "refuses" to "reserves" and the words "to serve" to "not serve".
I dare say if the Muslim posts a sign that says “No Christians”, his business would be gone post haste.
You have the right to not do business with whoever you choose, but be prepared to accept the consequences.
“But they wouldn’t DARE go after a Muslim business - would they?”
The left are predictable animals on a political not moral campaign.
That Their federal employees so gleefully play into their hands in this openly political campaign only goes to prove that they have no intentions of playing by any set of rules which even pretend to respect our right to exist.
The left is not playing for a civilization or rules as they claim to be. They have already broken every rule they themselves established to disadvantage us as soon as those same rules became inconvenient to them.
If we respect their rules, and their ‘courts’ it will be the end of us as a people it is fight with everything we have or die.
They have utilized every tool at their disposal not only to defeat but to completely remove us from existence. They are a fascist force in this respect unable and unwilling to live by any rule but that which gives them compete control of everything, and of course that is not obtainable or sustainable in democracy thus inevitably they will destroy democracy itself just as soon as they have destroyed us and realized they have only themselves to fight.
Podunk East Tn. I doubt there’s a very strong contingent of queers in his small town.
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