Posted on 06/30/2015 11:37:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Well, it’s not like court craziness has caught America by surprise. It was being complained about 200 years ago, and still the only (toothless) Constitutional remedy is impeachment. The Founders, bless all their hearts, were optimistic that the new America would conduct itself in good character. But even George Washington was discouraged to see what happened when actual fallen men took the helm.
Well better 2 centuries late than never... something more than impeachment is needed as a Constitutional brake on crazy courts. Several possibilities have been suggested. Congress could override with supermajority of both houses (Bork amendment). Judicial retention elections. Patches for specific issues.
1) Mark Levin has been promoting Article V for a year or so. He’s right.
2) It will fail. Fedzilla will happily ignore any amendments passed that way, just as they currently ignore the existing Constitution, and its 27 Amendments.
3) We must do it anyway: to rouse the population, and to show that we tried every legal, peaceful means of restoring the Republic.
4) Our problems are not political, they are spiritual. Our Savior is Jesus Christ.
When allegiance to the Lord wanes, that certainly magnifies the visibility of pre-existing problems.
Anyhow, all genuine wisdom is of the Lord.
Judicial retention elections could change the balance of the picture for a while. The oversigned responsible party in the Constitution is “We The People” and if it is too difficult for “We The People” to reach the judiciary, that principle is stultified.
If FDR wanted to pack the court... well, the people should be able to unpack it.
We sometimes call them "original sin". For which there exists one solution, and one solution only (THE way, and THE truth, and THE life ...)
I was thinking, this morning, that politicians should feel a shiver of fear upon seeing a bucket of tar or a bag of feathers.
They don’t.
And that’s a problem.
And fine, you can get in my and everybody’s face as much as you want... there is still no excuse not to attempt to improve something that has been known to be warped in the Constitutional structure for 200 years.
If the saved have too little grip on the government, it will go wild anyhow.
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See #43. I'm in favor of an Article V convention, even if I'm not convinced it will 'work'.
This is because as much as we enjoy that kind of cartoon we never respond with violence.. We are too Christian (and that remark is intended to make you think).
Pride in America is a two edged sword. It can lead a people to idolize the country.
After a debacle like last week’s, I daresay fewer are “proud of America” now.
No need to act puzzled.
I once believed “evangelism is the sole answer” and for eternity it is. However, the Noahide commandments still stand as wisdom advice for governments and they are pretty self evident to even many reasoning unbelievers. Why would God want to maintain a temporary economy along with an everlasting one? Well ask Him, but it is plain He has.
the Noahide commandments still stand as wisdom advice for governments and they are pretty self evident to even many reasoning unbelievers.
Quite so. And even the worst, most unjust of governments still generally see a responsibility to address and attempt to minimize murder, rape, and robbery. East Germany, for example, had "Staatspolizei" (tyranny enforcers) and "Volkspolizei" (regular police).
I call to mind the following from Alexanr Solzhenitzen:
Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."[
And the following from Isaiah:
17:
9 In that day their strong cities will be like the deserted places of the Hivites and the Amorites, which they deserted because of the children of Israel, and there will be desolation. 10 For you have forgotten the God of your salvation, and have not remembered the Rock of your refuge; therefore, though you plant pleasant plants and set out slips of an alien god, 11 though you make them grow on the day that you plant them, and make them blossom in the morning that you sow; yet the harvest will flee away in a day of grief and incurable pain.
Post/thread BUMP!
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Just started reading “By the People” by Charles Murray. Great and relevant read.
Well said, but I prefer to think that Americans are a sleeping giant.
Our Constitution was a miraculous success that even endured the Progressive Movement for over a century. Finally, people are starting to wake up and realize something:
It was not the Constitution that failed us. It was parts of the amendments which followed. We politicized the Senate for one thing. And the tradition of judicial impeachment was watered down to to point of worthlessness.
“Our problems are not political, they are spiritual. Our Savior is Jesus Christ.”
Our spiritual rot is due to the Progressive Movement just as Russia’s spiritual rot was due to Leninism.
How our nation is governed matters. You find that theme throughout the Old Testament.
“We are too Christian (and that remark is intended to make you think).”
We submit too much to modern progressive tainted doctrine. After all, Jesus wanted his apostles to buy swords and defend him. But they were lulled into a slumber just before the kiss of Judas — only Peter bought a sword.
“Live by the sword/die by it.”
He did not come to change the Scripture, only to fulfill it:
Ecclesiastes 3:3: “... a time to kill ...”
Jesus saw no point in Peter getting himself killed due to being greatly outnumbered, especially since He finally understood what His Father wanted Him to face.
We have been lulled into a slumber ourselves. But this time, rather than buying swords we can amend the Constitution.
That is a cockamamie take on theology.
Jesus, who had rebuked Peter about trying to get Him to not go to the Cross, now is telling His disciples to mount an armed resistance to stop said Cross, sure.
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