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Posted on 06/30/2015 6:19:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
With the revulsion against Confederate symbols that has resulted from shooter Dylann Roof's internet picture with the Confederate battle flag, Robert E. Lee has been put in the gunsights of social radicals. Lee was one of the two great generals of the Civil War and due in part to his good fortune in having an excellent biographer in Douglas Southall Freeman, is generally regarded as the greatest, although it should be noted that Grant won the war.
Lee came from one of the oldest families in Virginia and arguably its most distinguished. His father, Light Horse Harry Lee, was a general in the Revolutionary War and a relative, Richard Henry Lee, was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. Winfield Scott, general in chief of the Army before the Civil War, thought Lee the best soldier he had ever seen. Lee was offered the command of the Union army but resigned his commission to fight, as he saw it, for his homeland, Virginia. Before the Civil War, the country was referred to as “these United States.” After the Civil War, it was “the United States.” So, ante bellum, there was a different view of the country than we have now.
Lee was a great leader of men as well as a brilliant soldier. He came to represent the heart of the Confederacy. His aristocratic background and bearing, his having sacrificed his fortune for the Cause, and his victories in the field led him to become the ideal, almost the incarnation, of the Confederacy itself.
His leadership in the Confederacy is now considered dishonorable, or at least disreputable, by member sof the adversary culture. It is true, as Grant observed, that the Confederacy fought valiantly for “as bad a cause as there ever was.”
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Well, at least the reporter showed some concern over the anti-American terrorist group. Pretty surprising for CNN. The probable intent of the fag who made the mock ISIS flag, with homo ‘sex toys’ on it replacing the islamic symbols, was what I was referring to.
Attack Robert E Lee, that is line you don’t want to cross.
The only thing I have against Lee - a great, viral leader of the old school - is that he managed to get through West Point without a single demerit. In this regard, I prefer Custer.
Did not Custer graduate at the bottom of his class?
I do like the Errol Flynn movie, “The Died With Their Boots On”, great film.
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Boy, are you right about that! I’m amazed at the southern history haters here. Do you remember how I was attacked when I briefly challenged Mark Levin’s seeming hatred of the south?
Yes, he did. He had an enormous amount of demerits as well. I’m a Custer-freak. I love him and have read all his books as well as his wife’s. They were both very literate people with excellent senses of humor.
I just noticed your name! I, too, and a huuuuuge Errol Flynn fan.
Custer was a fine General and a hell of a leader despite the Hollywood fantasies.
Men who called him reckless when they met him usually retreated on their first impression and called him a fearless front line leader who inspired me to follow him. The commonly accepted Little Bighorn story is mostly BS.
He was a war fighter and didn’t do well during periods of calm.
Yes, he was a warrior by nature. He also was saddled with a lot of ill-behaved immigrant troopers during the Indian wars which, I think, drove him bonkers. He was used to the strict discipline of the Union Army.
I just saw him for the first time last week, what a presence and character. I didn’t think it was just how the roles were written, either. The two movies I saw were Gentleman Jack and Dive Bomber, not exactly swashbuckling action flicks, but fun. I just looked at his filmography and saw how many historical figures he has portrayed. I’ll be on the lookout for more.
I STILL use that term.
My grandfather was named ROBERT LEE, was a Tennessean, didn’t think Lincoln walked on water.
RE: I STILL use that term.
Is there a significant difference in the views between those who use the term THESE UNITED STATES and THE UNITED STATES?
If so, what are they?
The United States == National identity is foremost. States exist as political subdivisions of and are subservient to the central government. This is an essentially European and imperial model of government.
These United States == National identity and State identity are on par. The central government exists as a creature of the sovereign States, for the purpose of serving their united interests and presenting a united front to the rest of the world. This is the uniquely AMERICAN, federalist model of government created in the Articles of Confederation, refined in the Constitution.
I urge you to read the Constitution again, with this thinking in mind. I believe you will see that it is designed to very strictly limit the size and scope of the central government; to SEVERELY minimize its power over the several States and its sphere of influence. I suggest that you pay particular attention to the enumerated powers of the Congress in Article 1, and to the 9th and 10th Amendments.
Many of our problems today, particularly with the expansive and expensive central government, stem from ignoring those limits.
Robert E. Lee, as one of the most noble examples of the traditional American is therefore a natural target of the hate driven fanatics, who want to destroy everything that they can about the Conservative Christian heritage that he represents.
The cultish pursuit of Diversity, is a prime example of the ongoing effort to eradicate that culture.
The very idea of attacking Robert E. Lee because of cultural differences between Virginia & Massachusetts, to put it into perspective, would have been totally outside the compact agreed to in the 1787 - 1789 agreement.
Most American soldiers respected Field Marshal Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel. He was even called the Desert Fox, out of respect. It is well known that he treated his prisoners of war humanely, and he ignored orders to kill any captured Jews. If I can have respect for a German soldier like Rommel, why the hell can I not respect Lee?
Kind of like nazi diplomat John Rabe who saved a lot of Chinese from Japanese massacre at Nanking.
Growing up in Virginia Lee was considered somewhere just below the Holy Trinity.
I was taught to live as “The General” had: to be honest and truthful, abstain from liquor and to have malice towards none.
We never heard Grant spoken of harshly, probably because of his leniency at the surrender.
The only Union leader universally despised was Sherman.
Murderer, rapist and looter were the kindest names for him.
I know of no Virginian who took any pride in J W Booth.
I was taught the only thing worse than losing the war was the death of Lincoln.
Southerners only get agitated when northerners try to come here and tell us how to live and conduct ourselves.
Yet so many people from the north still have a level of hatred for all things southern.
I keep hearing the south is still fighting a lost war, it seems like the north refuses to let reconstruction go.
They need to “get over it and move on”.
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