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To: spetznaz

I read somewhere that if you had enough time, the best way to evade an enemy missile is to make 2 sharp turns (I forget if you had to turn in any specific direction)

Probably not too often would you have enough time I guess.


76 posted on 07/01/2015 1:38:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
There are some pilots that claim certain turns can play to the doppler effect, but you'd have to ask them how plausible that is in real life. Obviously, with sufficient information (say you somehow pick up a missile launch ...maybe your IRST picks up the launch flare) and sufficient distance you may be able to pull off all sorts of stratagems, but I'd say in most missile engagement distances (usually short range, even for medium/long-range missiles like the AMRAAM) there is most probably not much time to do much. And when it comes to advanced IIR missiles like the AIM-9X/ASRAAM/Python4/Archer it becomes basically a done deal that if the other guy launches within missile envelop it is done. I'd bet that in near-peer engagement where two opposing fighters launch their respective IIR missiles at each other, they'd both disable/destroy each others' planes.

I did see an interesting review of the (much talked about) US/India exercise done some years ago. While most people were yapping about the SU-30MKI (the Indians touting how it 'defeated' the American F-15s, and the Americans touting how they could easily time the Flanker's end-of-thrust vectoring envelop to come in for a gunkill based on experience practicing against the F-22's TVC), the real but ignored story from that was the use of jammers to squeeze the engagement envelope of radar-based AAMs to the point where both planes were withing visual/IIR-missile range. Not just jamming the plane radars, but the missiles as well. Now, I know there are missile homing modes that simply shift to home-on-jam, but it was very interesting to see how Indian MiG-21s fitted with Israeli-jammers managed to get within WVR of the F-15s, and that it was those Israeli-specced-jammer nigh-obsolete Fishbeds that gave the Eagle pilots that toughest time ...not the Flankers.

Which is one of three reasons I have as to why the thought that air-war against a near-peer adversary will consist of long-distance BVR shots is very wrong.

77 posted on 07/01/2015 4:39:26 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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