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Complete Transcript: Senator Ted Cruz Interview With NPR News
NPR ^ | 6/29/15 | NPR Staff

Posted on 06/29/2015 3:13:45 PM PDT by VinL

I cannot provide the complete transcript- it’s 17 pages long. I have provided two (2) excerpts and the link. In the 2nd excerpt, Cruz dumbfounds the interviewer by saying- ‘ the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage need not be obeyed, except for the parties to the litigation!” What we all feel in our hearts and souls about the Founders America, Ted Cruz articulates in reasoned argument supported by the law and the Constitution. Like WF Buckley, Ted Cruz cannot be dismissed by the Left as some “rube conservative”; this because he defeats than in intellectual argument. If we’re looking to make a case for the Framers’ America, Ted Cruz is our best advocate. I recommend one reads the entire transcript, but here are two (2) excerpts:

INSKEEP: What does it say to you that both of these rulings that you so strongly disagree with came from a Supreme Court where most of the appointees were from Republican administrations?

CRUZ: Well, it underscores one of the points really at the heart of my book, which is that the problem we have is not Democrats versus Republicans. It is a Washington cartel. I've said many times the biggest divide we have politically is not between Republicans and Democrats. It's between career politicians in both parties and the American people.

And what we have seen in recent years in Washington is all three branches of government violating the law and violating the Constitution. Barack Obama is the most lawless president we've ever seen. The Supreme Court, egregiously this past week, is rewriting federal laws and rewriting the Constitution. And sadly, Congress acquiesces. And the entire point of the book, "A Time For Truth," is to tell the inside perspective of what's going on in the United States Senate; the fights.

And as you know, the opening chapter is entitled "Mendacity." And I'm not talking about Democrats when I say that. It is the mendacity of Republicans who join with Democrats. You know, Steve, you don't get an $18 trillion debt without a whole lot of bipartisan cooperation.

INSKEEP: You begin the book by accusing your fellow Republicans in the Senate of going along with a debt ceiling increase when you felt they should have fought it. You felt that they were going against their principles, and not just differing with you over tactics.

Just the other day, you predicted that in response to the Supreme Court rulings that your fellow Republicans, Republican Party leaders, would pretend to be incensed, but then do, quote, "absolutely nothing." What makes you think that your fellow Republican leaders are so cynical?

CRUZ: Because they agree with the rulings from last week, both the Obamacare ruling and the marriage ruling. This is why men and women across this country are so frustrated. I'll tell you, I just flew in from Iowa this morning. In Iowa, each town hall I ask people: How many people are frustrated with Republican leaders? Every hand goes up.

And it's because on election day, Republicans campaign saying they're opposed to Obamacare. They support marriage. They'll defend the rule of law. They'll defend the Constitution. And they get to Washington and they're part of the Washington cartel.

With respect to the Obamacare decision, a whole lot of Republicans in Washington are thrilled that they don't have to deal with the issue in Congress. And even better, they can blame the court for it. And with respect to marriage, you know, it's been stunning. Republican presidential candidate after Republican presidential candidate have put out statements that have said this is the law of the land; we must accept it and move on. Those are word for word the talking points of Barack Obama. And this is why so many men and women are frustrated.

What I've tried to do in politics is two very simple things: tell the truth and do what I said I would do. It says something about Washington, D.C. that those are considered radical acts.

(SNIP)

But did I just understand you to suggest that state officials should feel no particular obligation to follow the court ruling if they feel it's illegitimate?

CRUZ: They should feel no obligation to agree that the court ruling is right or is consistent with the Constitution.

This ruling...

INSKEEP: But does that mean they can ignore?

CRUZ: They cannot ignore a direct judicial order. The parties to a case cannot ignore a direct judicial order. But it does not mean that those who are not parties to case are bound by a judicial order.

And that's what Justice Scalia was saying in his dissent, which is that the court depends upon the remainder of government trusting that it is faithfully applying the law and — and these judges and justices are disregarding their oaths.

This is — the entire premise of the decision on marriage was that in 1868, when the people of the United States ratified the 14th Amendment, that we were somehow silently and unawares striking down every marriage law across the country.

That's a preposterous notion. That is not law. That is not even dressed up as law.

Now listen, reasonable minds can disagree as a policy matter. Should gay marriage be allowed. I suspect you and I would disagree on that policy matter.

Part of the genius of our framers is they set up a system to resolve the policy matters, and that system is we can engage in the democratic process, you can make arguments in support of whatever forms of marriage you embrace and others can make other arguments and our elected officials decide.

What this decision is, and both of these decisions are, are decisions from the Washington elites that they know better than the American people, that it doesn't matter whether the American people agree with them or not, they're going to force their radical views on them, and that's — that's really unfortunate.

INSKEEP: I really want to get to other views in the — other issues in the book, but I feel it's important to clarify this one thing.

Did I understand you to say just now that as you read the law, as you read our system, this decision is not binding on the entire country, only to the specific states that were named in the — in the suit.

CRUZ: Article III of the Constitution gives the court the authority to resolve cases and controversies. Those cases and controversies, when they're resolved, when you're facing a judicial order, the parties to that suit are bound it. Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it.

Now, in subsequent litigation, other courts will follow the precedence of the court, but a judicial order only binds those to whom it is directed, those who are parties to the suit. That's the way our litigation system works.

Now, this is what Justice Scalia was talking about in his dissent, which is that it has been the case that on a great many issues, others have largely acquiesced, even if they were not parties to the case.

But there's no legal obligation to acquiesce to anything other than a court judgment. And I would note that the next major battlefield that is going to occur following this marriage decision is religious liberty.

And there are a number of pastors who are publicly saying that if the courts attempt to order them to violate their faith, that they will defy the orders of the court and go to prison for it. That shows just how far we've gotten from the Bill of Rights and our Constitution.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; tedcruz; texas
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The entire interview is fascinating-- Cruz is sui generis- he's a gift.
1 posted on 06/29/2015 3:13:45 PM PDT by VinL
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To: VinL

THIS is why Ted Cruz should be POTUS and why the rest pale in comparison.


2 posted on 06/29/2015 3:19:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: VinL; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; aposiopetic; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

    If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

3 posted on 06/29/2015 3:22:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: VinL

“Now, this is what Justice Scalia was talking about in his dissent...”

And unlike reading Scalia’s dissent - I can actually understand what Cruz is talking about. Not only is he very smart and understands what is going on, and can talk about it in detail off the top of his head - he can speak it in language that most people can understand. I could listen to Cruz all day. (Hey - I did watch his filibuster for hours on end!)

He does have a gift. I would say he is Blessed by God.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 3:23:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: VinL

Ted makes the other candidates seem like babbling idiots.


5 posted on 06/29/2015 3:25:09 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: VinL

He’s got to win Iowa and New Hampshire coming up to get a boost in the media because he turns people around that have only heard about him through media filters like CNN, ABC, NBC etc. The more people that hear him direct for the first time the more his following grows.

Donate today tedcruz.org even if it’s only a small amount because June 30 the report goes out to the FEC from all candidates regarding donations. And small donations by a large group of people send a large message.


6 posted on 06/29/2015 3:25:25 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: VinL
Ted Cruz articulates in reasoned argument supported by the law and the Constitution. Like WF Buckley, Ted Cruz cannot be dismissed by the Left as some “rube conservative”; this because he defeats them in intellectual argument.

Since when has an intellectual argument ever convinced the LIV's or the Vagina voters, not to mention the Marxists and their presstitute butt boys?

7 posted on 06/29/2015 3:27:58 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hostage
He’s got to win Iowa and New Hampshire... ,p> While it is conceivable that Cruz could win one or both of these contests, he doesn't have to actually win them. A top 3 finish would insure his campaign is viable.
8 posted on 06/29/2015 3:28:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01; VinL

https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/?cid=FO0122&amount=25

Donate a small amount because the donation report goes out tomorrow. If there are a lot of small donors, then Ted gets a boost in the media.


9 posted on 06/29/2015 3:31:16 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

The more people that hear him direct for the first time the more his following grows.
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I believe you’re dead on target. That’s why these polls don’t concern me. We all saw how Newt, with 2 good debates in SC, became the frontrunner- but lacking money- he couldn’t stay there.

Like 2012, people will flow to the conservative who they feel all other conservatives will unite behind—— so, as you said, when they realize just how good Ted Cruz is— he’ll be the one.


10 posted on 06/29/2015 3:32:00 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

I hope all will encourage him to call for states to regain control of their powers not enumerated in the constitution. At the same time we must lean on our state legislatures to do so.

Interestingly enough, the white house has already stated that they intend to ignore today’s supreme court ruling on the EPA.


11 posted on 06/29/2015 3:37:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Hostage

Made 3 donations in the last three days. I want his financial report to be impressive.


12 posted on 06/29/2015 3:37:34 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: VinL

I just donated again.

https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/?cid=FO0122&amount=25

I’ve never donated like this multiple times in one day. I hope others are doing likewise.

I want to see a glowing report of an army of small donors getting behind Ted Cruz. The FEC report gets filed tomorrow.


13 posted on 06/29/2015 3:38:08 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Don Corleone

Well, Don Corleone, with all respect, I certainly agree with you— mainly because I don’t want to wake up to a horse’s head.

But, please consider that the only chance for Ted Cruz, or any other conservative, is to appeal to the 70 million who don’t vote. And they don’t vote because (1) no one motivates them to get off the couch; and (2) there’s no difference between the parties. Ted Cruz, like Reagan, is attempting to show that there is a difference.

Con tutti respecti


14 posted on 06/29/2015 3:39:01 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: 21twelve

He does have a gift. Don’t forget his appearance on Hannity tonight.


15 posted on 06/29/2015 3:39:06 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Great! I hope there’s like a million of us out there. I donated 2 times today. I hope last minute small donations are pouring in heavily.


16 posted on 06/29/2015 3:39:46 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: VinL

It is interesting that Cruz has been into the belly of the beast several times recently...and done well EACH time.

No other candidate can handle it...nor do they do it. I think he is honing his skills.

I love how relaxed he is when he talks with Leftists...they really can’t get under his skin.


17 posted on 06/29/2015 3:50:54 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: VinL

Let’s cut to chase, the Commies have taken over. I’m for someone who has real fire in his belly against these commies.

Ted Cruz is the only real representative of anti-communism we’ve got, his father a strong anti-communist, having escaped the clutches of Communist Cuba. His father knows what it is, likewise his son. Both father and son have THAT kind of fire in his belly.

I don’t think most of the other candidates really even know what socialism is, and how it leads into communism, they speak vaguely about it.

To put it simply, the commies are in control, we need an anti-communist in the drivers seat. Ted Cruz is that man.


18 posted on 06/29/2015 4:02:51 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: VinL
Fascinating! I have said it before and I will say it again, for this time, Ted Cruz is the best conservative candidate. Why? We are are in a time of increasing lawlessness and departure from the constitution. Even worse, a lot of people are either ignorant or dismissive of what is going on.

Cruz is the best equipped to explain the constitutional system in language that is understandable and also steer the ship closer to where it should be. He is a true constitutional scholar.

19 posted on 06/29/2015 4:15:20 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: SoConPubbie

20 posted on 06/29/2015 4:24:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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