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Bye-Bye Second Amendment
townhall.com ^ | 6/29/2015 | D W Wilber

Posted on 06/29/2015 6:30:03 AM PDT by rktman

Barack Obama and his party have made no secret of their desire to enact strict gun control legislation in America. Their efforts have been rebuffed so far by the American people and the Republican legislature. But that hasn’t stopped them from plotting any number of ways to try to restrict gun ownership through regulatory, procedural, or executive actions.

Those efforts are bound to continue, especially now that the United States Supreme Court appears to be open to reaching decisions based on political considerations and public pressure, as opposed to basing their decisions solely on the U.S. Constitution.

What does all this mean for the millions of responsible gun owners in America? It could mean the eventual confiscation of entire classes of weapons by the federal government. But at least initially it will probably be more subtle, the first step of a slippery slope towards the outlawing of private gun ownership in the United States.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; confiscation; guncontrol
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Contrarian view for some of the pundits that are/were saying that the same sex marriage ruling based on the 14th may lead to national reciprocity. Sadly, if I were asked which one was more likely, tighter restrictions on something that is actually in the BOR or more freedom from infringement on actual rights guaranteed in the BOR, I'd have to lean towards tighter restrictions. No telling what's hidden in the TPA/TPP that could effect these infringements.
1 posted on 06/29/2015 6:30:03 AM PDT by rktman
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Barky & Company would have to get around the D.C. vs. Heller decision by the High Court in 2008, affirming the INDIVIDUAL’S RKBA.


2 posted on 06/29/2015 6:37:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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“No telling what’s hidden in the TPA/TPP that could effect these infringements.”

And that is EXACTLY why we’re trying to demand full disclosure before any action is taken on it.

Not to mention the wisdom of waiting until we have a new Congress and a new CIC.


3 posted on 06/29/2015 6:37:49 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: rktman

Flashpoint


4 posted on 06/29/2015 6:42:24 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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A Court which can redefine marriage can redefine anything, including the plain language of the Second Amendment, or of any other Amendment.


5 posted on 06/29/2015 6:43:51 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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Our rogue Supreme Court will continue to shred the 2nd and 4th Amendments, and will use the 1st Amendment’s Establishment Clause to wage war on Christians. The great American experiment in liberty is over. America as we’ve experienced it over the last 200 years was an anomaly-tyranny is the norm.


6 posted on 06/29/2015 6:44:37 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

If they are ignoring / modifying the words in existing law there is no reason they can’t do the same to the Heller decision.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 6:45:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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The contents of the Constitution trumps all state, local and federal laws. If there is injury to an individual or corporation in the TPA or TPP with regards to the 2nd amendment, they will have obtained standing. Once they are injured and have standing they can sue.

Unfortunately injury and standing should not have to be present in order to sue to have an infringement to the Constitution brought before the court.


8 posted on 06/29/2015 6:45:50 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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The Soviet Union had a FANTASTIC Constitution. Guaranteed everything to everybody.

We’re going the same route.


9 posted on 06/29/2015 6:47:28 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: USCG SimTech

Will J.Roberts get blackmailed when 2nd amendment issue reaches SCOTUS, or will he side with the Liberals just based on his own stupidicy?


10 posted on 06/29/2015 6:47:40 AM PDT by inchworm
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..It could mean the eventual confiscation of entire classes of weapons by the federal government...

When General Gage told the commander of 700 British Soldiers to be a good hap and remove those arms and Ammunition from those rowdies at Lexington, they found the colonists reaction on the road back home “most ungentlemanly.”


11 posted on 06/29/2015 6:53:11 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

With the topsy turvy scotus, probably not an issue. You know, only actual state military reserves or national guard due to the militia portion of the second. Besides, when did this administration give a hoot about the constitution? Congress is obviously no help.


12 posted on 06/29/2015 6:53:39 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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For future reference, the originally submitted text for what became the Second Amendment was this:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the People, being the best security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.

13 posted on 06/29/2015 6:54:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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I fear that boating accidents will be on the increase.


14 posted on 06/29/2015 7:03:06 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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We don’t have a Supreme Court. We have a Politburo. If they can blatantly rewrite legislation, whiting out “Established by the States” and penciling in “Established by whatever” they can certainly rewrite what’s left of the Constitution.

“The Federal Government’s right to seize and take arms shall not be compromised.” That has a nice ring to it!


15 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:10 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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“I fear that boating accidents will be on the increase.”

Don’t worry about your boating accidents. The Feds won’t be coming to seize guns, they will be coming to seize gun owners.


16 posted on 06/29/2015 7:06:41 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Steely Tom

The court redefined “state” to mean “not the state in their 0bamacare decision.

Words mean nothing to totalitarians.


17 posted on 06/29/2015 7:21:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers)
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The Supreme Court has proven once again this week that plain language and the Constitution mean nothing if it gets in the way of their political agenda. The President has been proving the same thing for years.

We are now being ruled by wicked men and women who believe there are almost no fetters on their lust for power and one of the few tattered fetters left is the 2nd Amendment. Expect anything to happen, including nullifying the plain words and meaning of the 2nd Amendment by fiat and acting with the force of "law" on that nullification.

18 posted on 06/29/2015 7:23:15 AM PDT by Gritty (The wicked strut freely about when what is vile is honored among men - Psalm 12:8)
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A Court which can redefine marriage can redefine anything, including the plain language of the Second Amendment, or of any other Amendment.

I suspect that is one line that America's enemies cannot cross in the next thirty years, at least. Even if they passed an unconstitutional law, it would not be obeyed. The socialists need a cultural change in the half of the country that is armed, or the response would be unpleasant. The generation that bought record numbers of firearms and cases of ammo in response to an effort to restrict our God-given right to keep and bear arms has lost patience with what our enemies call "compromise". The Second Amendment has one advantage over every other part of the Constitution - it protects itself.

If the thugs attempt to go any further, the response will start with the general response to the New York laws - any such laws will be ignored by the vast majority of gun owners. Efforts to actively enforce those laws against armed Americans who have already decided to resist unconstitutional laws would have the obvious and natural result. Go after us for our Christian beliefs, and we will likely respond as Christians - peacefully. Go after us for our guns, and we will likely respond as gun owners - effectively.

19 posted on 06/29/2015 7:28:45 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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One more generation of Twittering Facebooking idiots reaching the age of majority and the Left is likely to get everything on its wish list.


20 posted on 06/29/2015 7:37:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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