Posted on 06/26/2015 10:26:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Those that don’t like gay marriage should advocate to get gov’t out of marriage. It’s a religious issue and should be left with religious people. Tax everyone the same...flatten the code and get rid of marriage tax breaks and penalties.
Time to push the reset button and start over. We really haven’t had a constitution that has been followed as law since at least FDR. And this just finishes completely.
Constitution convention. Call the states together, let’s get started.
Here’s what I want GOP candidates to say about this Obamination.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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Damn right Congress had better get protections in to those people who do not support or recognize their sham. I know I will never accept their sham and if they try telling me they are married or she got married to her wife then they as in the past will be getting words back at them form me.
I'll vote for the candidate who doesn't just whine that he will "try to protect religious liberties". That candidate must say that same-sex marriage is an abomination before God and he will not enforce it.
More of the same stupidity. As if tax breaks and other financial benefits are the only things to accrue to marriage.
What about rights to not be forced to testify against a spouse in court?
What about inheritance? Parentage?
What about polygamy?
Your contention that Churches should be the only ones to define marriage protects nothing. Any "gay" "church" will tell you that.
The government will, much sooner than eventually, be required to officiate in marriage issues. And what they must officiate, they must define.
We should be much more succinct.
As a former, and perhaps future, candidate for president, here’s what I say:
“When the courts act against the laws of nature and nature’s God and the Constitution we have sworn to God to support and defend, I will tell them to GO TO HELL, then ignore them and their illegitimate opinions.”
AND he will not sign any budget that funds the courts to hear any challenge to this anti-states-rights gay marriage ruling or Roe v Wade.
hey Mags, ever hear the phrase “low information voter”? The vast majority can’t even read your first paragraph...
If we have to pass a law to enforce the Constitution we are doomed beyond repair.
That’s my point get govt out of it. Marriage is dead with today’s ruling.
You can’t “get government out of marriage” any more than you can “get government out of murder,” or “theft,”probate,” or etc.
The government isn’t “in the marriage business” any more than it is in the business of any of these other societal realities. But it must deal with them just the same.
Yeah. I’m the one who convinced him via several years of email communications.
Sure you can. Just treat everyone the same. Each person is an individual. All interactions between people can be contracted if they want legal standing.
Why MUST the gov’t be involved in marriage?
What do you mean by “contracted?”
Such a term implies an obligation - a LEGAL obligation - to perform.
What if one party just wants to dishonor a contract? Tough sh*t for the other party? OF COURSE, someone must ENFORCE the terms of the contract. Someone with teeth. And these are the courts.
And courts are ORGANS OF THE STATE. You can’t get around that.
Correct the courts handle contracts. My point is why is marriage even pre-defined. Get the gov’t out of it. IF I want to write a contract that says I will live with you and bob and all three of us will share equally in rents and bills and love. Then we can go to the courts and sue each other when it breaks down. Why do I need the gov’t to sanction it with pre-defined definition of a marriage.
So my question is why is the gov’t involved in defining what marriage is and require a license to get married? Just let contract law handle it for those wanting a gov’t enforceable contact. Otherwise it’s a religious deal only.
Why is this so difficult?
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