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Obamacare Still Isn't Safe, and Liberals Better Not Forget It
Mother Jones ^ | June 26, 2015 | Kevin Drum

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:43:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Greg Sargent warns Democrats not to get complacent about Obamacare:

House Republicans are still forging ahead with a separate lawsuit against Obama over the law (though it may not be resolved for years). Conservatives like Ted Cruz are still calling for holding spending bills hostage to roll back the ACA. GOP presidential hopefuls Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Cruz are all pledging to keep up the fight to repeal Obamacare — “every single word,” as Cruz puts it.

....Democrats should take continued GOP opposition to Obamacare very seriously. It has serious real-world consequences. As long as states hold out against the Medicaid expansion, it could slow the law’s efforts to realize its goal of expanding coverage. One thing this means is that Democrats should redouble their efforts to regain electoral ground on the level of the states, where future decisions about the Medicaid expansion will be made.

When Obama won the 2012 election, I figured Obamacare was finally safe. Except....there was still the Supreme Court. But they mostly upheld Obamacare, and once again I thought it was finally safe. Whew. Still, Republicans kept fighting. And things were still dicey as long as Obamacare was still vaporware. Then it finally went into effect in 2014, and disastrous rollout or not, I figured that was it. Once it's actually helping millions of people, it's safe. But wait! Then there was another Supreme Court case. But that dropped this week, and Obamacare was once again upheld.

So now Obamacare is finally safe, right? You'd think so, wouldn't you? But Republicans are obsessed with Obamacare like no other law that's been passed in decades. It's kind of scary, the same way it was scary watching the unhinged Captain Ahab stumping around the Pequod. So no, Obamacare is still not safe. Not unless Democrats win at least the White House, and maybe both the White House and the Senate, in 2016. At that point, Republicans will finally have to give up. They'd have no plausible path to repeal, and by 2020 the law would have been in place for seven years; it would be covering upwards of 25 million people; and the health care industry would be so plugged into Obamacare's rules that it would literally take years to extricate them if the law was repealed.

It sounds bizarre—not least of all to me, who badly underestimated how long Republicans could stay maniacally fixated on Obamacare—but it won't truly be safe until and unless Democrats win in 2016. I sure hope Democrats figure this out. If you want to know what we're up against, use Kevin's Quick Zeitgeist Test. Type "Obamacare" into Google and then go to image view. Here's the URL:

https://www.google.com/search?lr=&cr=&safe=images&gws_rd=ssl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&q=obamacare&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=-HSNVfnbNMLFggSu7YbIAw

Now do a quick count of pro vs. anti Obamacare images in, say, the top 50 results. Not counting neutral photos, I put it at about 10:1 for the haters. These guys aren't giving up. Those of who support Obamacare had better show a similar level of passion for keeping it around.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: obamacare; scotus; supremecourt; tedcruz
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If Mother Jones, The New Republic, The Nation, MSNBC and the rest of the Left keep insisting that Ted Cruz is the most conservative Republican in the race and the one they hate and fear most, why do so many people here claim he isn't?
1 posted on 06/26/2015 9:43:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very good question. I’ve wondered about that myself.


2 posted on 06/26/2015 9:50:30 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Motherf****n’ Jones. Commie POS at their best.


3 posted on 06/26/2015 9:53:40 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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If Mother Jones, The New Republic, The Nation, MSNBC and the rest of the Left keep insisting that Ted Cruz is the most conservative Republican in the race and the one they hate and fear most, why do so many people here claim he isn't?

Well the. If not Cruz, then WHO?? I can't think of any better. I could vote for a Walker...and possibly a few others, but he stands out head and shoulders above the rest.

4 posted on 06/26/2015 9:57:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

    If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

5 posted on 06/26/2015 9:58:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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The irony here is just delicious. A magazine named after a fire breathing anti corporate unionist who tried to push workers into the middle class is shilling for a law written by and benefitting megalithic corporations trying to slow bleed their middle class "customers" with ever-increasing premiums. The ruling will now kill off the State Exchanges, further constricting choice and pushing those premiums higher still.

Don't run after that middle class dream America, you'll only die tired.

6 posted on 06/26/2015 10:01:37 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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It’s best to read the communists. That way we know what Obama is planning to do to our country - and what he fears.


7 posted on 06/26/2015 10:03:20 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Poison Pill

There are ways around their fascism and bulls**t, but you have to be clever, smart and stay under the radar.


8 posted on 06/26/2015 10:05:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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The first thing I want President Cruz to do is turn around and place Obama under arrest.

Then announce he is repealing EVERY SINGLE THING he ever did, and refuse to further implement Obamacare as totally incomprehensible legislation and call for its repeal.

Then announce he is doing a top-down audit of every single government agency. Amnesty for anyone who confesses to fraud within the first year, mandatory minimum of 10 years jail for government fraud after that. (they must make restitution, though)

Dissolve the EPA and Dept of Education.

Appoint Ted Nugent secretary of defense.

Ann Coulter as press secretary.

Walter Williams commerce

Thomas Sowell at the Fed.

Donald Trump Energy.


9 posted on 06/26/2015 10:06:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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This Gravy Train called Obamacare\RobertsCare has left the station. This was the final attempt to stop it. And that failed.

Does anyone...ANYONE think that all the billions of dollars, all the infrastructure built as a jobs program for the left, all the buildings, offices, computers, furniture, everything, is going to be backed up?

Anyone?


10 posted on 06/26/2015 10:10:31 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.)
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Donald Trump Energy.

I would put Trump in as the head of HUD.

11 posted on 06/26/2015 10:24:34 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rlmorel

Nope. And unless President (fill in the blank) has the support of both houses of Congress, all this talk of repeal is just BS too.


12 posted on 06/26/2015 10:24:48 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is safe. It is perfectly safe. No eGOP member would possibly get rid of it. They have had years to do so and they haven’t.


13 posted on 06/26/2015 10:38:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pure B.S. Liberals don’t like Obamacare any more than we do. They only support it because it is the handiwork of their Messiah, and the most logical path to single payer.


14 posted on 06/26/2015 10:44:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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"It sounds bizarre—not least of all to me, who badly underestimated how long Republicans could stay maniacally fixated on Obamacare"

Maniacally? Really. Perhaps it has something to do with the precipitous and dramatic increase in insurance premiums, and decline in access and quality of medical care, or the fraud and mendacity nakedly perpetrated during the corrupt passing of this monstrosity, or maybe even the profound and damaging effect this will have on our future economy and society? Perhaps Republicans actually care about those little aspects of our national life, but, heck, I don't know... that's just me. I am often wrong. I thought the SCOTUS would uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, but clearly I was mistaken.

15 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:28 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (The March to the Abyss is speeding up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it is. Do you really think McConnell and Boehner will allow more than tweaks to it?


16 posted on 06/26/2015 11:01:54 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2005-07-20.html


17 posted on 06/26/2015 11:02:05 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Mr. K

Sarah Palin at Interior.


18 posted on 06/26/2015 11:03:01 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, it is unhinged to oppose Obamacare vigorously, but “hinged” to support it without knowing what was inside it.


19 posted on 06/26/2015 11:17:53 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reality is what will eventually kill Obamacare.


20 posted on 06/26/2015 11:59:38 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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