Posted on 06/26/2015 7:01:22 AM PDT by markomalley
Ruling just came out 5-4
And Windsor, along with the nondecision on Prop 8.
I see you and central_va are picking up each other's lingo.
He did dissent.
I always find it amusing when you all refer to a cause motivated by the desire to ensure a significant percentage of your population in bondage as an "independence movement". More like an "independence to deny independence movement."
Sure that’s not 2.4%?
I was using the number of significant figures my source gave - whether they got it right is up to you: http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/NSDUH-DetTabs2013/NSDUH-DetTabs2013.htm
When somethings is objectively true, you don't have to worry about trying to mesh lies. The truth meshes naturally.
Your task is much harder. You have to explain why there were Five slave states in the Union that didn't get attacked by Union Troops for practicing slavery.
And wrote the opinion for the minority,
Are you hazily recalling the following statement - which was not by St_Thomas_Aquinas but varyouga and which doesn't say what you claimed?
"And even if you somehow got rid of all drugs, they will get high from their own fermented feces or turpentine." - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3303004/posts?page=41#41
Right. I’m going to wade through that, when I KNOW that more than 2.3% (or even 2.4%) of Americans are “dependent*” on drugs.
*note: definition of this word is entirely fluid
If gays are as small a minority as some claim, and if they’re as reluctant to marry as some here believe, I would think it wouldn’t be that much of a windfall.
How do you know that (under any definition of "depndent")?
Actually I was referring to the Fedzilla thing. You both have been posting the same lost cause stuff for some time now.
Which the Union did as well, and had no intentions of stopping.
Here is where you keep insisting on your DISHONEST argument about what the fight was about. You repeatedly keep dragging up the word "slavery" to justify what your side did, and you keep ignoring the evidence that they didn't really do what you are claiming.
Under the US Laws of 1860, The Free Population had rights, and the slave population did not. This sorry state of affairs was recognized and accepted by all parties involved, yet you keep insisting on using 2015 morality to condemn what were the norms of that time period, and trying to argue these 2015 mores were what motivated them.
Again, this is intellectually dishonest. It is a deliberate forced anachronism for the purpose of rationalizing your position.
The non independence of Slaves was recognized in fact, by Thomas Jefferson, if not in words. Yes, the Declaration referred to "All men are created equal", and that is in fact what triggered the abolition movement but in practice, none of the founders applied those principles to slaves. If any of them had believed they applied to slaves, they would have set them free instead of continuing to hold them in bondage.
According to the law of that time, the principles in the Declaration did not apply to slaves. It's ugly, but they just didn't.
Whatever. The number of people I know who smoke pot...
Well, the whole thing is ridiculous and not worth going in a round-and-round dance with you about.
You believe what you believe. Period.
I agree with the poster who put the problem on drugs. I think there’s a lot to that.
There’s a lot of Manufactured Mental Retardation in our Brave New World society and drugs have a lot to do with it.
2.3%
Right.
What a laugh.
It is merely another tool to abuse the normal people of the nation. In practical matters it affects d@mn few of them, but int terms of giving them a huge club to beat people with, it's enormous.
It is valuable to them because it is a key that has unlocked a whole host of both legal and social doors. It "normalizes" their aberrant behavior.
No, but very interesting how you so often reply to any anti-drug post I make with a bunch of craziness and never about anything else. Creepy how you watch me, dude.
Forget abut “Saint”, this makes you the prime example of pos I was posting about.
Anything else I can clarify for you?
Regarding Fedzilla, freedom is indeed a lost cause. It was shot in the back in 1861 and only recently succumbed.
Are they all dependent on it? And anyway, the people you know are not randomly selected from and thus not statistically reprrsentative of the U.S. population.
very interesting how you so often reply to any anti-drug post I make with a bunch of craziness
Very interesting how you always fail to demonstrate the alleged "craziness" of my replies.
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