Posted on 06/26/2015 6:14:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There seems to be a lot of that going around.
So I've noticed.
Wouldn't firing on Sumter be a declaration of war?
Woman are you kidding? Any state legislature even contemplating secession would be arrested. There would be feds everywhere. What a joke you are.
No it doesn't, but since that isn't what happened, the point is moot. The Southern States offered to pay for Ft. Sumter. Nobody was willing to accept any payment for it.
It was far more valuable as an excuse than it was as a Fort.
Whats dumb is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. But you are an expert at that you little twit. I want to use an ‘a’ in that last word but decorum stopped me.
In what way?
The North saw the South being able to conduct business with other countries as against the rights of the North to remain the sole supplier of industrial goods to the South.
The South always had the right to conduct business with other countries. In the year before the war they exported over 3 million bales of cotton to overseas customers. They had the right to buy what they wanted from abroad as well. The fact that they did not is an indication of lack of demand for those goods rather than lack of rights.
Not at all paranoid, are you?
What a joke you are.
You've been keeping me in stitches, too.
That's exactly what happened.
The Southern States offered to pay for Ft. Sumter. Nobody was willing to accept any payment for it.
Maybe it wasn't for sale?
Yes I've noticed that I keep letting myself get sucked into more and more of these threads, where you and Diogenese and friends keep spouting the same crap over and over and over again. I really need to work harder on avoiding them since nothing will ever change your odd little view of the world.
By all means stop posting.
OK so if some of the members of the Virginia legislature planned on voting to throw the commonwealth's support behind ISIS in their war on the U.S. what do you thing the federal government would do to them? Arrest them? Perhaps have them classified as "enemy combatants" and hold them without trial, as the government has done on a couple of occasions during the war on terror? Would you be opposed to those actions?
my quibble with your post wasn’t about the start of the Civil War - it was about the idea that we went to war with Japan and Germany simply because they “sunk a few boats.” That statement is an obvious attempt to minimize what the real issues were.
Your comparing secession with ISIS, again what a twit.
I think it's pretty valid if you stop and think about it because we're not talking about peaceful secession. In September 1861 there was a war going on. Southern secession had dropped the "peaceful" pretence four months before. Some members of the Maryland legislature wanted to join that war against the U.S. You have to expect that the government was going to take a dim view of that.
This will make you cry: Rush Limbaugh just corrected a caller who was saying the Civil War was about slavery and the the caller then called the South the “slave states” that wanted to spread slavery everywhere. ( Could have been you ) Well Rush slammed him good. Rush said the war was about preserving the Union and the that South wanted to be left alone to carry out their business in accordance to their wishes. Lincoln couldn’t allow secession and went to war. He even seemed to agree it was “ A war of Northern Aggression”.
And I was debating a person who was trivializing Sumter and the act of war that it was. Part of the reason for the analogy was to show how absurd his position was.
ah got it.....and yes, your analogy did just that. Good one.
Wasn't me. I'm an occasional listener but have never called in.
Well Rush slammed him good. Rush said the war was about preserving the Union and the that South wanted to be left alone to carry out their business in accordance to their wishes. Lincoln couldn’t allow secession and went to war. He even seemed to agree it was “ A war of Northern Aggression”.
In Rush's defense he only claims to be right 99.7% of the time. Even he has an off day.
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