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Pope Blames Markets for Environment’s Ills
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 18, 2015 | Francis X. Rocca

Posted on 06/24/2015 4:43:46 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: Gumdrop
Here we go again with such nonsense. Exactly who would buy the Vatican’s library of priceless book, and who would be good stewards of such treasure?

There are a great number of people and places that would buy them and who cares?

In reality they belong to the human race, especially the Western world.

And the Vatican is just looking after them out of the goodness of their heart.

O-Kay!

41 posted on 06/24/2015 6:14:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: HLPhat

No, he ran a mission school in the Philippines and was taken prisoner by the Japanese during WW II.


42 posted on 06/24/2015 6:16:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama; All
The Pope forgets that Jesus did not involve Himself with politics ....

Is he deliberately trying to be outrageous?

Or is he just brain-dead? (Oh, I forget, he's a liberal - goes with the territory)

Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

He's supposed to be a spiritual leader - not political

43 posted on 06/24/2015 6:21:47 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christians are as Christians do. By their fruits...)
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To: Bobalu

“The Church Of Rome has a pinko doofus as pope.”

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

ISIS is perpetrating a growing genocide and this clown is stuck on the environment. I guess he wants clear skies and clean water after the Caliphate for these modern day Nazis.

I wish he would shut his mouth and go away.


44 posted on 06/24/2015 6:25:28 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And the Vatican is just looking after them out of the goodness of their heart.

O-Kay!

Well, the documents have lasted for centuries, and others for over a thousand years. The See of Peter has been in continuous existence for 2000 years, unique in all of in all of human history, with an unbroken succession of leaders since Its founding.

So if past performance is the best indicator of future behavior, keeping the records in the hands of the Vatican is the safest bet.

And BTW, the NYT and Time Magazine value the entire Vatican city-state at $15 billion. That's half of Harvard's endowment. And the Vatican's "flock" is significantly larger than Harvard's, with over 1 billion faithful.

45 posted on 06/24/2015 6:27:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You get the award for one of the stupider replies. I especially like the “who cares” remark. I am surprised you can read. Knowledge is why we are where we are today. Maybe you can attend a good book burning. The church has many faults but the preservation of these books etc. is not one of them.


46 posted on 06/24/2015 6:32:35 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: maine-iac7; Lion Den Dan; Vaquero; bert
he's a liberal

Sure sounds like that when we read what others say about the Pope instead of what he actually said.  Here's something from the This is from the link to the actual encyclical:

...Our relationship with the environment can never be isolated from our relationship with others and with God. Otherwise, it would be nothing more than romantic individualism dressed up in ecological garb, locking us into a stifling immanence. 

120. Since everything is interrelated, concern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion. How can we genuinely teach the importance of concern for other vulnerable beings, however troublesome or inconvenient they may be, if we fail to protect a human embryo, even when its presence is uncomfortable and creates difficulties? “If personal and social sensitivity towards the acceptance of the new life is lost, then other forms of acceptance that are valuable for society also wither away”.[97]...

He doesn't sound liberal there.

47 posted on 06/24/2015 6:38:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Buckeye McFrog

How did the organization and operation of his Jesuit Mission School differ from that of the schools within the purview of his fellow Jesuit’s and their Paraguayan communes?


48 posted on 06/24/2015 6:39:47 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionally blank.)
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To: expat_panama

The Pope has lost it. He is somewhere in outer space.


49 posted on 06/24/2015 6:43:51 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Japanese Communist Party leader Shoichi Ichikawa died in Miyagi penitentiary in March 1945”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_prisoners_in_Imperial_Japan


50 posted on 06/24/2015 6:58:46 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionally blank.)
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To: mulligan

That’s what we’re getting from the drive-bys but like I said in post #47 it’s the drive-bys that have lost it.


51 posted on 06/24/2015 7:08:23 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Q: Why does Catholicism produce a Communist pope?

A: Because Catholicism is an heretical, anti-God religion.

Stop this insane Mary worship. Prayer is an act of worship. It is an affront to God to worship anyone but Him.

"Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.

Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.” - Rev 22:8,9

52 posted on 06/24/2015 7:08:34 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: expat_panama

I’m originally from the USSR so I know the drawbacks of communism are far worse.

BUT, one drawback of the free market is there is nothing in place to protect resources and the general environment for the future.

People who don’t care about the future environment have an advantage in the market TODAY over those that actually think of the future. So as a result of a free market with no environmental regs, we see multicolored rivers and yellow skies in China. Dumping toxic waste for future generations so some factory bosses and retailers can get rich TODAY via the free market.

You CAN’T tell me pollution like we see in China is good. And the free market has no mechanism in place to prevent people from destroying the environment.

What type of solutions would you all propose so that our air and water remain clean?


53 posted on 06/24/2015 7:18:38 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: HLPhat

Obviously he did not die in Japanese custody as I knew him and I was born long after the war ended. The Japs treated civilian detainees only slightly better than military POW’s. They used to take some of what little food they had and tried to smuggle it to the American POW’s on the other side of the wire, who were literally starving.

Or were they all Communists too?


54 posted on 06/24/2015 7:36:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama

That is enviro doublespeak to mask the real message


55 posted on 06/24/2015 7:42:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
>>Obviously he did not die in Japanese custody

Obviously...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_prisoners_in_Imperial_Japan

...the Japanese were not endeared to Communists any more than they were to any of the other prisoners they kept; and so being held captive by the Japanese proves nothing.

Now again, what differentiated that Jesuit school in the Philippines from the schools run within the purview of those Jesuit communes in Paraguay -- where the central bank operated under the "Marxist" ideal of "from each according to their ability - to each according to their need"?

Was the redistribution of food resources compulsory among the prisoners within the Jesuit's purview?

56 posted on 06/24/2015 8:24:19 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionally blank.)
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To: Stosh
Which of course is why East Germany, the old Soviet Union and mainland China are so environmentally pristine.

YES! It's also why the fortunate citizens of those hellholes were so prosperous, happy, and free... The Pope is on to something here...

57 posted on 06/24/2015 9:15:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (Ask about the 'Kremlin-backed bank that paid Bill Clinton $500,000 for a single speech in Moscow'..)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

If the Pope would sell off all the Vatican City assets, and donate them to the poor, wouldn’t the poor be better off? Maybe he should do this first, then he would have the moral high ground to criticize capitalism.
___________________________

Isn’t THAT the truth!

This pope seem to be an authority on everything- not.


58 posted on 06/24/2015 9:21:56 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: expat_panama

Not true.


59 posted on 06/24/2015 9:30:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Stosh

The Pope is naked!!! Every day is clearer the Francis is a radical left Marxist that hates free enterprise capitalism and admires the Cuban Stalinist regime as a model to follow by the rest of Latin America. . As soon as he took power, Francis rescued from the trash bin of history the Marxist liberation theology, a movement proscribed by H.H. John Paul II and Benedict XVI because it depraved the Gospels inserting in it the main Marxist tenets, an ideology described as intrinsically evil by Pius XI and condemned by all the Popes and by Magisterium of the Church since the late 19th century.


60 posted on 06/25/2015 9:49:31 AM PDT by Dqban22
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