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Liberals are still getting the South all wrong
New York Post ^ | 6/23/15 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/24/2015 4:28:24 AM PDT by NJRighty

‘Lots of folks expected us to do something strange and break out in a riot. Well, they just don’t know us,” the Rev. Norvel Goff told the packed, multiracial congregation of Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, SC, on Sunday.

It was the first service since the horrific slaughter of nine innocent souls by a racist fanatic.

Not being a Christian, I can only marvel at the dignity and courage of the victims’ relatives who forgave the shooter. If I could ever manage such a thing, it would probably take me decades. It took them little more than a day.

Less shocking, but almost as uplifting, was the conduct of the broader Charleston community, which has been unified and dignified, despite the expectations of some in the media — and the accused gunman, who’d singled out Charleston because of its success at racial integration.

And this points to Goff being right, not just about Charleston but about the South in general.

There are few subjects that ignite more casual, uninformed bigotry and condescension from elites in this nation than Dixie.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: charleston; confederateflag; dixie; jonahgoldberg
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To: needmorePaine

Yes, I can defend it. Suppressing the urge to be honestly nasty to others is a social virtue. Not having the urge to be nasty to others is a personal virtue. (The virtue of humility, to be precise). The latter is morally superior to the former, but the former is extremely beneficially if one is interested in a pleasant social environment.


41 posted on 06/24/2015 6:10:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: MagnoliaB

You have to wonder about people who consider an abundance of churches to be a bad thing.


42 posted on 06/24/2015 6:12:10 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: Tax-chick

“any statement starting with “You people ...” has to be suspect.”

Yeah, say YOU PEOPLE to a group of blacks and see what happens.


43 posted on 06/24/2015 6:18:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: needmorePaine

Yes, but yours sounds vulgar. You’re from the north aren’t you? Or perhaps a globalist?


44 posted on 06/24/2015 6:19:41 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: defconw

“They use blacks to get what they want. They don’t give a damn about them.”

Very true. If that little secret ever gets out.....OH BOY!


45 posted on 06/24/2015 6:22:02 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Tax-chick

AMEN!


46 posted on 06/24/2015 6:22:54 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Tax-chick

“social virtue”

See, that’s where ya screwed up right there. No yankee is gonna have an inkling of what the heck that means. :)


47 posted on 06/24/2015 6:25:07 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Tax-chick

You put it so well. Thank you.


48 posted on 06/24/2015 6:31:46 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: needmorePaine
In the south the phrase “well bless your heart” can go either way. It is up to the recipient to decide how to react. You can accept it as a blessing and walk away, or an insult and make an azz out of yourself.
49 posted on 06/24/2015 6:46:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: needmorePaine

You can be honest and polite at the same time. Takes practice and is best taught during childhood. You can also teach an old Yankee knew tricks. Just takes a little longer because of the amount of knowledge already accumulated as opposed to a blank slate. I was born in the Bronx, grew up in suburbs of Philly, moved around a lot, Il, VT, NJ, south MO, NC.

I personally prefer living in places where people believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and know that after loving God with all your heart, you are to love your neighbor as yourself. If you need to learn to be polite, best place to start is with the person in the mirror, eh? Have a blessed day!


50 posted on 06/24/2015 6:46:39 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Tax-chick
You have to wonder about people who consider an abundance of churches to be a bad thing.

You have to wonder about people who think "the North" doesn't have an abundance of churches ...

51 posted on 06/24/2015 6:52:10 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: central_va

The South is certainly prejudiced against Yankees in general—and yet they relocate down your way all the time.


52 posted on 06/24/2015 6:53:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NJRighty
Just briefly.

Charleston is called the Holy City by many; its many churches are indeed cherished. Its "Four Corners of Law" are signposts and true reminders of its history and courage.

Of course, it is also recognized that the Ashley and Copper rivers merge at Charleston to form the Atlantic Ocean; and here Senator Rivers placed his Naval Base (now closed).

Over seventy years ago now author W. J. Cash published The Mind of the South which makes several cogent points. One is that "being Southern" is more an attitude/mindset of independence and fellowship and not the very common and misused regional identifier. Two, in the Low Country from the times of indigo and rice, sand-lappers went from dirt floors to views from the Battery living SOB in just two generations.

Perhaps it is paradoxical, the grieving AME church faces Calhoun Street and is very near Marion Square (formerly the parade ground for the Military College of South Carolina) where there is a towering memorial to one John C(aldwell). Calhoun.

Perhaps another paradox in waiting - Will the POTUS be bringing in his entourage the Rev. Wright to the AME services?

53 posted on 06/24/2015 6:57:01 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: NJRighty

Damn right they don’t know us. The only ones who are starting trouble (TRYING to start trouble) are from out of town. The rest of us band together, put our heads down and move on.

The cop who murdered the black man, his family came out almost immediately at the news Sharpton was on his way down here, in a press conference told him to stay away and stated their support for the Charleston PD.

For those who don’t know, we lost 9 firefighters in a furniture store almost to the date 6 or 7 yrs ago. It is the same as this mass murder. We support each other. We don’t fall apart and start blaming each other.

That is unique to us in the Charleston area that no lib or “journalist” will ever understand.

This whole flag ordeal is white noise. Pandering at it’s peak.


54 posted on 06/24/2015 6:58:43 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: NJRighty
"Blogger Glenn Reynolds noted that when the South was solidly Democratic, we got “Gone With the Wind” nostalgia. Now that it’s profoundly less racist, but also less useful to Democrats, it’s the enemy of all that is decent and good."

Bingo.

55 posted on 06/24/2015 7:00:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We've seen this before. There's a master race. Now there's a master faith." Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: NorthMountain
Yeah, but a large, very large proportion teach the social gospel, not the one of Christ.

That being said, there seems to be a lot of the prosperity gospel in the South.

Both are heresy.

56 posted on 06/24/2015 7:09:01 AM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: EBH
If we ‘forget’ this slice of our history, what do we gain?

Well, if we forget this part of our history we forget about the causes of the civil war as well. One of them was slavery (but not the only one). So let's forget about slavery. Never happened. Now when someone talks about the legacy of slavery we can say, "What slavery? That never happened!"

The left has used this tactic in trying to say that the American life and culture of the 50s and early 60s never existed, so we should stop trying to go back to something that never happened. We simply apply the same tactics to them.

57 posted on 06/24/2015 7:13:52 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: chesley

The point is not whether you or I agree with their teaching.

The point is that they exist.


58 posted on 06/24/2015 7:23:49 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

That’s just it, no?

Slavery and the race card...make the history disappear or greatly diminish it...what do they gain? Why? It takes away from their meme.


59 posted on 06/24/2015 7:25:08 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: MagnoliaB

Once I was listening to a woman from Ohio rant about how “You Southerners are all so racist” bla, bla, bla. When she finally stopped to take a breath, my brain cells actually worked and dredged up two words to say to her: Marge Shott. Boy, did that shut her up.


60 posted on 06/24/2015 7:44:14 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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