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Here We Go Again: Left Pounces on Gun Control in Wake of Charleston Tragedy
Townhall.com ^ | June 19, 2015 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/19/2015 6:21:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel

Less than 24-hours after a racist young white man killed nine black members of the Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston, South Carolina Wednesday night, the left took the opportunity to immediately politicize the tragedy with a push for more gun control. 

First, President Obama made a statement from the White House claiming violence like this "doesn't happen in other advanced countries" and blamed easy access to a firearm for the tragedy. 

"We don’t have all the facts, but we do know that once again innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. Now is the time for mourning and for healing. But let’s be clear, at some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency. And it is in our power to do something about it," Obama said at the White House before jetting off to a pair of DNC fundraisers in California. "I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it would be wrong for us not to acknowledge it. And at some point it’s going to be important for the American people to come to grips with it."

Then, Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton followed suit at a convention in Las Vegas. 

"In order to make sense of it, we have to be honest. We have to face hard truths about race, violence, guns, and division," Clinton said. "How many innocent people in our country -- from little children, church members, to movie theater attendees -- how many people do we need to see cut down before we act? So as we mourn and as our hearts break a little more, and as we send this message of solidarity that we will not forsake those who have been victimized by gun violence, this time we have to find answers together.

First, the statement from Obama that this type of violence only happens in the United States is false. David Harsanyi has the numbers

It take only takes some quick research to discover that rampage killers, acts of terror (as the Charleston shooting most certainly is), school attacks, spree killers are not unique to the United States.

In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp. This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history. Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences.

It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing. In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanca, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11.

Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people.

Evil exists and it exists everywhere, not just in America. 

Second, Martin Luther King Jr. owned a handgun precisely because of the violent racism we saw carried out on Wednesday night. Racist local police denied him the ability to carry it outside of his home, making his ability to "get his hands on a gun" more difficult. Is this something Obama and Clinton support? I would hope not. 

Third, would more gun control have prevented this horrible tragedy? The answer is no. The racist man (who I refuse to glorify by naming him) who killed nine black christian worshippers out of pure hate Wednesday didn't legally obtain the firearm he used to carry out the massacre. Reports show that either his father gave him a .45 caliber handgun for his 21st birthday, which would have been illegal due to a previous felony charge on his record (and a felony for his father as it is illegal to purchase a gun for someone who is ineligible to do so), or that he stole his mother's handgun to carry out his crime, another felony. Either way, gun control laws were broken but that isn't stopping the left from taking the opportunity to push a political agenda not based on fact.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; barack0bama; davidharsanyi; guncontrol; hillaryclinton; racism
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To: Kaslin

And yet, they NEVER say how the new laws they have wet dreams over would have prevented this. All they really want is CONTROL over your safety and life.

We learned this scam back in 1968!


21 posted on 06/19/2015 6:47:28 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin
The news media just can't get it right, so allow me to correct them:

Less than 24-hours after a racist young white man who was on a powerful anti-depressant named suboxone, known for its aggressive behavior side effects killed nine black members of the Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston, South Carolina Wednesday night, the left took the opportunity to immediately politicize the tragedy with a push for more gun control.

22 posted on 06/19/2015 6:50:08 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: fulltlt
The Pinto: Poor engineering's fault.

The Tylenol poisoning: A nutcase did it

Gun deaths: The gun didn't kill anyone, just like pencils don't misspell and spoons don't make you fat.

Helpful?

23 posted on 06/19/2015 6:51:05 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
They are always on psychotropic drugs. Anybody seeing a pattern here?

Nope, no pattern here. Can't see a pattern over the last 30 years which has linked almost every mass shooting to some high-powered anti-depressant drug.

Nope, no pattern at all!

24 posted on 06/19/2015 6:52:01 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My wife’s first observation when she was online (LCSW ... knows all the drugs and their effects).


25 posted on 06/19/2015 6:53:21 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Will Benghazi Clinton buy some new pant suits or continue to wear Ellen Degenerate hand-me-downs?)
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To: Kaslin

From Drudge: http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/

Have read several places now that psychiatric drugs are factors in very high percentage of the shootings or attempted shootings, and also in many suicides in modern era.

So, how do you get a handle on that??


26 posted on 06/19/2015 6:55:28 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: fulltlt

“I need a good comeback for this.” (see “Recalled after x deaths:...” cartoon)

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

GUN-GRABBERS Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jon Il, were still going strong after millions of deaths, and so will Obomination. Masses of people void of prayer and right relationship with Christ just never find it within themselves to recall tyrants.


27 posted on 06/19/2015 6:55:58 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Kaslin
The leftist's dream.

And the original from 1919 Russia!


28 posted on 06/19/2015 6:56:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin

If Hillary weren’t spreading her irrational “gun free zone” logic, those poor people would have had a chance at life. If nine guns had popped out and pointed at that man, he might have gotten one of them, but that’s all he’d have gotten.

They died because of Hillary.


29 posted on 06/19/2015 6:56:35 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: fulltlt

Know how easy it is to make a pipe bomb? Or a pressure cooker bomb like in Boston?? And with just a modest intelligence one can make a rather complex bomb with a few objects and supplies found in any hardware store or even a grocery store. And that is happening every day in the middle east.

Banning and confiscating and scrapping every civilian owned gun in the country will not stop the person intent on mass murder. It won’t even slow them down.

In fact, the WORST school mass murder involved no guns whatsoever;
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bath_School_disaster


30 posted on 06/19/2015 6:57:24 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: fulltlt
"Far more children die each year in swimming pool accidents than in gun incidents."


31 posted on 06/19/2015 6:59:34 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Notice at the hearing he could barely answer yes or no. same deal with the Aurora shooter. We are being set up like Sat night hooker.


32 posted on 06/19/2015 7:01:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Wherever the Libs point look 180 degrees away to find the truth. Always. They are ALWAYS scheming.


33 posted on 06/19/2015 7:01:29 PM PDT by Thom Pain (If you like your country you can keep it. Period. REPEAL 17 !!)
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To: fulltlt

Two not protected in the Constitution.....one is.


34 posted on 06/19/2015 7:04:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Kaslin

Let’s outlaw all guns everywhere. Then, just think, everyone, there will be no more murder and no more violence! Yippee!

Let’s start with the military, then the police, then us.

OK, Government, you go first!

We citizens promise we will give our firearms up, just as soon as yours are all gone. So just turn them in to we the people.

We’ll do a Cash-For-Triggers program. We the citizens will give you the government $1 for every weapon you turn in. Mail one to each household until they are all gone.

We the people guarantee that the country will be free of violence when the process is complete.


35 posted on 06/19/2015 7:06:49 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Sooth2222

BAN HEART DISEASE!


36 posted on 06/19/2015 7:07:42 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I just want to enjoy Father’s Day without this barrage of stories of evil white people hating blacks and killing blacks in every form of media for months on end. This fact alone is why I suspect these attacks are staged and engineered to produce an agenda - but then people will say I’m a conspiracy nut and accuse me of being an insensitive nutjob.


37 posted on 06/19/2015 7:10:45 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Kaslin
When next confronted by shameless gunbanners, confront them back with this: Does anybody believe this oligarchic puppet has no recollection of the Breivik murders in gun-banning Norway nor the Charlie Hebdo murders in gun-banning France where even the police victims were unarmed?

If your answer is “No,” then you must realize that this shameless ghoul is a liar. You ought be proud that this is the man with whom you are in league.

38 posted on 06/19/2015 7:22:15 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Fear govts that never dis & often employ Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases.)
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To: fulltlt

I am copy and pasting;
“I posted this on another thread yesterday, but it needs to be seen by everyone to put what happens here in proper perspective.

We in the US have more guns per capita than any other country in the world, but we are 111th out of 218 when it comes to ALL MURDERS irrespective of the method used to kill. And further, if we were able to discount the RAT-Run cities (where most of the killings occur), we would be 211 out of 218. Take a look!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/pELwCqz2JfE?rel=0&autoplay=true

5 posted on 6/19/2015, 8:39:49 PM by vette6387”

-He said it better than I could.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3302119/posts


39 posted on 06/19/2015 7:22:39 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: fulltlt

40 posted on 06/19/2015 7:29:31 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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