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No Wonder Obama Won’t Let Us Read TPP
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| June 17, 2015
| by Phyllis Schlafly
Posted on 06/17/2015 2:40:05 PM PDT by familyop
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To: conservativejoy
That’s cheap—like Walker trying to claim he’s reformed on illegal immigration after talking with Sessions.
To: conservativejoy
So his efforts were for naught and, from my understanding, trade agreements can now make changes to the immigration laws of the United States
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:33:38 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: conservativejoy
It goes to the Senate now and if passed
as is will not contain any immigration language.
The House Passes the TPA, again
House leaders separated the TPA from the TAA this week by moving TPA into H.R. 2146, a bill about the retirement funds of federal law enforcement officers and firefighters. The old provisions of the bill were retained when TPA was added to the end of this bill. This combined bill now goes to the Senate. (In fact, it goes back to the Senate. H.R. 2146 had previous passed the House and the Senate, but the Senate passed it with a technical change see our summary. Rather than concurring in the Senates technical change, the House added TPA.)
The Senate will now have to decide whether to approve the Houses addition of TPA to H.R. 2146. But this is a removal of TAA from the original package deal. Senate Democrats may balk, but they may not have the numbers to vote the bill down.
This is the second vote in the House on TPA. The last vote was on the Senates Trade Act, H.R. 1314, that combined TPA and TAA. Although House Democrats support TAA, they voted against it last week to tank the whole bill (see our previous coverage and full explanation of TPA, TAA, and TPP). By doing so, they gave House Republicans the opportunity to pass the TPA alone and risk losing the one part of the trade deal they supported.
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:44:35 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: familyop
An interesting comment...
How Congress Voted on Trade Trade Promotion Authority, or TPA, would fast-track the TPP and TTIP once they are finalized. This means that Congress will consider the deals without the opportunity for senators to filibuster or for members of either chamber to propose an amendment. It will be an up-or-down vote. Congress is deliberating whether to tie its hands together now in order to prevent the trade deals from unravelling once its members get a look later.
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:48:24 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
Why do you think the House version does not contain the immigration language?
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:52:24 AM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: conservativejoy
Notice that the Cruz amendment didn't make it to
H.R.2146 either.
(13) to take into account conditions relating to religious freedom of any party to negotiations for a trade agreement with the United States.
(b) Principal trade negotiating objectives.No (14) there either.
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:55:36 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: conservativejoy
Apparently his amendment failed to pass.
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posted on
06/19/2015 11:56:22 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: conservativejoy
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:00:27 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
It failed to come up for a vote in the Senate because of two Senators, but it was included and passed in the House. So the bill coming back to the Senate includes the immigration language by Cruz.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:01:15 PM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: conservativejoy
So the bill coming back to the Senate includes the immigration language by Cruz.Then show it.
H.R.2146 is the bill going to the Senate as is stated in reply 83.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:05:02 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: conservativejoy
Bill Text Versions 114th Congress H.R.2146There are 5 versions of Bill Number H.R.2146 for the 114th Congress. Usually, the last item is the most recent. 1 . Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.2146.IH][PDF]
2 . Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.2146.EH][PDF]
3 . Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act (Referred in Senate - RFS)[H.R.2146.RFS][PDF]
4 . Resolved, That the bill from the House of Representatives (H.R. 2146) entitled `An Act to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow Federal law enforcement officers, firefighters,... (Engrossed Amendment Senate - EAS)[H.R.2146.EAS][PDF]
5 . Resolved, That the House agree to the amendment of the Senate to the bill (H.R. 2146) entitled `An Act to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow Federal law enforcement... (Engrossed Amendment House - EAH)[H.R.2146.EAH][PDF]
So the bill coming back to the Senate includes the immigration language by Cruz.
Where is that language? 2146 has the same language as 1314.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:11:47 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: 9YearLurker
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:33:05 PM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: lodi90
Why is TPP secret?I have no idea why the TPP negotiations are being kept so secret.
My guess is that every day Americans would be spitting tacks if they knew in advance what was being proposed and Congress doesn't want to deal with the backlash.
Thus the urgent need for fast-track. Pass it "as is" even if you only like part of it because -- "it helps the American worker". /politician impression
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:40:24 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: familyop
“As with previous nefarious trade conspiracies, the TPA is a fast track for quickly passing the TPP and other schemed agreements between global bosses”
yes that’s all you need to know. And why would any Republican Congress be eager to grant this to Barack Obama of all people in the world? And if they are not planning to vote for TPP why give Barry the fast track in the first place. We are being had folks
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:41:06 PM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: conservativejoy; 9YearLurker
Here is an article in which Sessions is quoted on immigration language to be added to TPA.But you said...
...it was included and passed in the House.
I've given you the link to the bill going to the Senate.
Show me where that language is at.
And your politico.com link isn't good.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:46:24 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
Link <> Trade is important for America for two primary reasons: it means good jobs and a stronger economy. And heres a fun fact: Texas is the #1 state when it comes to exports! <> Trade is also important because a vast majority of customers live outside of the U.S. so its in our countrys interest to open up overseas markets to American goods and services. <> When it comes to negotiating free trade deals, the President already has the authority to negotiate trade agreements by himself. <> But I believe the American people through their Congressional representatives should have a real say on trade. Thats where Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) comes in. TPA empowers Congress when it comes to trade. It enables Congress to hold the President accountable as well as ensure oversight and transparency throughout the trade deal-making process. <> I have gone through TPA, and you can too! TO READ THE TPA BILL IN ITS ENTIRETY: CLICK HERE. <> Also, here are 12 key points to help clarify the differences between Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) which are two VERY different things: <> 1. TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) is a trade bill Congress is planning to vote on it is NOT a trade deal or agreement. This bill can be read by the public. <> 2. TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) are trade negotiations involving the U.S. and 11 other countries including Australia and Japan. We are NOT voting on TPP. <> 3. Obama already has the power to negotiate trade deals. Right now he can do so without Congress input (like with TPP). I think this is wrong. Thats why TPA is important; its all about EMPOWERING CONGRESS when it comes to trade so that there is accountability and transparency from beginning to end. <> 4. The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has said that TPA grants no new authority to Obama. <> 5. With TPA, Congress sets the trade negotiating objectives. Without TPA (right now), Congress has no say. <> 6. With TPA, Congress can read negotiating texts. Without TPA (right now), Congress cant do so. <> 7. TPA requires Obama to make public any trade deal 60 days before consenting to it right now you dont get to read a deal, which I think is WRONG. TPA changes this and provides transparency. <> 8. If Obama violates TPA, Congress can take it away from him. PERIOD. This provides accountability! <> 9. TPA is TOUGH ON IMMIGRATION. While Obama is already not allowed to make changes to immigration laws through trade bills, I DO NOT TRUST THIS PRESIDENT. Thats why, for good measure, TPA includes language reaffirming that trade agreements cant include immigration provisions. ALSO, for further good measure the House passed an amendment to the Commerce/Justice/Science Appropriations bill to prevent funds from being used to negotiate or finalize a trade agreement that includes provisions relating to visas. <> 10. The TPA also includes language to ensure U.S. interests and sovereignty will be protected (Sec. 108). <> 11. If we dont like what Obama has negotiated, we can vote it down. Simple as that! <> 12. With respect to TPP (trade negotiations), it is important to note THREE things about privacy: a. TTP is classified until a deal is reached in order to protect the integrity of our negotiations. Why? U.S. trading partners are only willing to make the best trade offers/concessions to the U.S. if they trust there is discretion in the negotiations. Think it about: when you are buying a car, would you tell the car dealer upfront how much you are willing to spend? Of course not! Thats the case here. We want the best deal for America! <> b. Currently (without TPA), the President can make trade agreements behind closed doors and keep Congress in the dark. <> c. Again, TPA would also require the President to make public any trade deal 60 days before signing it so YOU can read it and let your representative know how you want them to vote. <> Bottom-line: the only way to hold the President accountable and provide transparency is with TPA. Without TPA, the President can do what he wants behind closed
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:46:41 PM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: conservativejoy; 9YearLurker
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:51:11 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36; 9YearLurker
The article was at the request to produce how Sessions was involved in the immigration language that Cruz wrote for the TPA Bill. In a speech, Cruz said that he conferred with Sessions on the language. In the article Sessions discusses the immigration language.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:57:26 PM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: conservativejoy
TO READ THE TPA BILL IN ITS ENTIRETY: CLICK HERE. That is wrong. As I said, the TPA was moved to H.R.2146 and that link goes to H.R.1314.
H.R.1314 had TPA and TAA in it.
H.R.2146 has just TPA in it.
You're behind by several days...at least. Mr. Johnson needs to update his site.
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:59:00 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: conservativejoy; 9YearLurker
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posted on
06/19/2015 12:59:47 PM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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