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ABC News must be excerpted...

In light of today marking one month after the Waco shooting and of recent activity on FR regarding the event (i.e., "If it wears a vest; you must arrest.") it is probably a good time to review the timeline of events on May 21, 2015.

According to the timeline reported by AP from the Twin Peaks security video, the event took two minutes from the start of shooting until the Waco PD entered the front door of the restaurant.

Waco PD has since claimed that they were in their vehicles at the start of brawl.

In two minutes, the Waco PD:

  1. got out of their vehicles
  2. set up their M4 assault rifles
  3. aimed and fired upon their targets
  4. cleared the parking lot of the multiple armed threats there
  5. entered the restaurant.

Anyone have any experience in this type of operation? Is this timeline credible?

1 posted on 06/17/2015 9:56:59 AM PDT by Prolixus
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To: Prolixus

Special Forces.


2 posted on 06/17/2015 10:04:22 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Prolixus
"......At 12:24 p.m. Sunday, according to the AP,...

Lost all credibility right there.

Why can't us little people view all the raw the video; is it too rough for our delicate constitutions?

We are adults and can come to our own conclusions. And with the lack of transparency I must conclude that the media is colluding with the police to cover up murder.

It looks really bad for the cops and the DA.

If I was them I'd be in full CYA mode, and panicking: Some of them are going to jail!

3 posted on 06/17/2015 10:05:37 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (B.L.O.A.T. : Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: Prolixus

“Anyone have any experience in this type of operation? Is this timeline credible?”

One biker that was detained but not arrested said he knew what to do as soon as he saw the cops. He went face down on the ground BEFORE he was instructed.

I have also heard that the bikers were very busy trying to ‘dispose’ of their weapons when they realized the cops were coming.


4 posted on 06/17/2015 10:08:19 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Prolixus

The timeline is credible for the FBI HRT or maybe another highly trained law enforcement agency.

But the Waco PD? This is the kind of thing maybe a big city PD would be able to pull off, but Waco?

This video shows the Waco SWAT team and how they get ready for action and I just don’t see this happening in under 120 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxkMRnNmYWQ

Meaning they planned on this.


6 posted on 06/17/2015 10:10:49 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Prolixus

WTF is an ATF contractor? Is that another word for ‘confidential informer”? It sounds like ‘more’ than that.

Someone hired by the ATF to do the things that the ATF cant/wont/shouldnt do?


7 posted on 06/17/2015 10:15:05 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: don-o

Ping.


8 posted on 06/17/2015 10:20:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Prolixus
"In two minutes, the Waco PD:.....2.set up their M4 assault rifles"

What does this mean? The only thing I can think of that would constitute "setting up" an M4 is inserting a magazine and pulling the charging handle to chamber a round. This takes less a second and was probably already done before the first shot was fired.

10 posted on 06/17/2015 10:26:02 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Prolixus
Is it a certainty that?

got out of their vehicles
set up their M4 assault rifles
aimed and fired upon their targets
cleared the parking lot of the multiple armed threats there
entered the restaurant.

In that order exactly? Is that conjecture, a guess, or what?

11 posted on 06/17/2015 10:28:18 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Prolixus
First of all, I never said that. I've been misquoted.

Secondly, I haven't seen the video yet but two minutes seems a bit long. My guess is that they took the time to put on some gear and "stacked up" outside the door and did a tactical entry. If this was NYC we would have just rushed in the door as soon as we heard shots fired. We're not the brightest but we stop shooters.

19 posted on 06/17/2015 10:41:52 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Prolixus

Sure it is credible. They were obviously already there. Maybe they saw the sea of bikes and we’re parked near by or they got a call. In any case it appears they were already there.


20 posted on 06/17/2015 10:46:00 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Prolixus

...events of May 17, 2015.


27 posted on 06/17/2015 11:03:39 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Prolixus; Travis McGee
My favorite comment so far, knowing now that the Cossacks weren't on the "gang" list until the "shootout": The Cossacks, yeah, I would call them a gang because they have a lot of cops in their club. However, the vast majority of the ones jailed actually WERE enthusiast clubs, Christian clubs and vets clubs ...

WATCH THE VIDEO of the ABC official story the day after it happened. Matt, TRUTH is "stranger" than fiction -- I swear to God, it's like out of a movie. That news video report at the link is chilling and theatrical. One hundred percent pure manipulated propaganda. You know the stupid reporters believe every word.

Remember. 800,000 to 1.2 million bikers thundered through D.C. on 9-11 2013, though headlines and reports mentioned "thousands of bikers." Times 800 at least -- big loud blessed Harleys flying American flags, riders gnarly-bearded hard-core cowboys to Weekend Warriors, Americans from all walks of life, all colors, from all kinds of clubs and all kinds of independents.

The MSM reported that "thousands" converged on D.C. Digging a little deeper revealed real-count estimates were in the neighborhood of a million regular American independent nomads on Harleys PISSED OFF. No headlines or teasers mentioned "100,000s of bikers" or "nearly a million bikers" at least in MSM, that I saw. It was downplayed. It never happened, on the MSM's official radar.

Except it DID.

Is the same thing going to happen here? I will be flabbergasted if so.

60 posted on 06/17/2015 2:40:03 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Prolixus
Another great comment: "Law dogs and bandits go hand in hand like beer and pretzels."
61 posted on 06/17/2015 3:00:11 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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