[roamer_1]

Yeah, I was asserting that there's a difference between a family trying to eat breakfast and bikers

You're assertion, as usual, is uninformed. Likely as not, 99% (if you know anything, that number is significant) of the time, there is no difference at all.

[thefactor]

So you’re asserting that the original melee could very well have been started by a family who was simply eating breakfast? Because, as you stated, 99% of the time there’s no difference at all. Or is this just the 1%?