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First Cruz now Walker. Little less surprised by his support though. Shortlist is very very short now.
1 posted on 06/12/2015 12:50:18 AM PDT by z taxman
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So then voting on a 4,000 page trade bill without six months to study it to determine the full content and it’s effects both intended and unintended would be nothing short of treasonous abandonment of the responsibilities of their oath of office?


2 posted on 06/12/2015 12:55:40 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: z taxman
Let's be honest: there are no conservative Republican candidates. Cruz and Walker are a lot closer to Jeb Bush than they are to us.

Cruz and Walker are just better at marketing to conservatives. But they know where their bread is buttered.

4 posted on 06/12/2015 1:07:37 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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IF IT IS SO GREAT TELL US WHAT’S IN THIS DAMNED BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 06/12/2015 1:10:59 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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If these various Obamatrade bills are just supposed to be about stating that any future trade bills will be negotiated by the executive branch and then voted up or down by the legislative branch, then why are they rumored to be thousands of pages long?

It would seem that the honest thing to do would be to pass a simple bill giving the executive branch the power to negotiate these treaties and limiting the legislative branch to an up or down vote.

Later bills would fill in the details such as how many H-1b spots per year, how many visas to issue, what rules/regulations/taxes every country has to abide by, etc.

By rolling the authorization of future trade bills and the actual trade bills themselves into the same pieces of legislation, they are denying US citizens the ability to intelligently direct our representatives on what to do.

The two candidates I felt most strongly in favor of were Cruz and Walker. Now they've both decided to do with trade what Obama did with healthcare.

There is no serious candidate remaining. I may have to start thinking about Trump. However bad his toupee is, at least he talks like an American Citizen.

6 posted on 06/12/2015 1:23:30 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

Knowing the history and track record of both Cruz and Walker, I say we need to pull back on the trigger and holster our guns until more is known (too many sound bites and interpretations, along with the flood of “expert” analysis and supposing flying around).

Be careful about who is pushing your buttons, do you even know who is?


7 posted on 06/12/2015 1:32:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Your "short list" has always had one name on it, dude.

8 posted on 06/12/2015 1:32:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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I say we need to pull back on the trigger and holster our guns until more is known

Ah, that should be, "remove our finger from the trigger....

;)

9 posted on 06/12/2015 1:35:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Seriously going to pass another Law that hasn’t been read? Walker is for the Patriot Act in it’s original warrant-less spy form. Now that we are hearing more from him.. He reminds me of Chris Christie.. With lots of publicity he takes on a few of the super left unions and such. I mean, it’s great that he can single- handedly restore a state budget to surplus. It’s great that he has weathered the storms... what about The Constitution.. It forbids government spy program and explicitly enumerates power to branches, separate but equal.
These are not separate but equal, these are tyrannical.


20 posted on 06/12/2015 2:28:37 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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I say he’s traitor what say you?


21 posted on 06/12/2015 2:35:51 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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Why is there so much confusion over this bill? Why didn’t the GOP get out front and explain why secrecy was necessary, what the process is, what the bill does?

They thought they could just cram it down our throats and they were right, apparently.


25 posted on 06/12/2015 3:06:34 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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Yeah. Like with obamacare. “Trust us”. Right.


27 posted on 06/12/2015 3:22:01 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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I think real leadership is knowing the right thing to do, and doing it. I think of Steve Jobs, REagan, Bush with the surge etc.

Some people whom we ALL here admire, Walker, Cruz etc are for this bill. It’s up to them to take a leadership position on this. I don’t see any value in second guessing them on something the rest of know nothing about.


30 posted on 06/12/2015 3:38:10 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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Too bad, I am done with both.


35 posted on 06/12/2015 4:08:52 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Yep.

I was undecided as to whether I could support Walker.

No longer undecided.

Will not support.


37 posted on 06/12/2015 4:34:10 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Rand Paul


41 posted on 06/12/2015 4:41:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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Can we forget the Republicans now?


43 posted on 06/12/2015 4:42:58 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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Big business and the C of C means everything to our GOP leaders. That is what the Dems always said. I guess it is true. We need to change the country club culture and I think we need to do it by opposing everything they want in the form of business breaks and taxes. In fact we should support raising their taxes until they stop stabbing us in the back.


50 posted on 06/12/2015 5:27:31 AM PDT by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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All of the sudden Donald Trump is looking better. He is against this.

Cruz and Walker are no more to me.


53 posted on 06/12/2015 5:41:43 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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From what I’ve read about the Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) and the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), I’m not as concerned about TPA as I am TPP. Unfortunately, the provisions in TPA may make it easier to ram TPP through and that is my concern since there are apparently provisions that may bring about carbon taxes and immigration reforms that I’m against in TPP. I would be more inclined to trust TPA with a GOP president, but not with the current corrupt administration in charge.


57 posted on 06/12/2015 7:02:56 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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Wonder if Jeff Sessions would be interested in running for president?


70 posted on 06/13/2015 3:32:32 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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