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Baltimore prosecutors refer to lack of seat belt, probable cause in outline of Freddie Gray charges
The Baltimore Sun ^ | June 11, 2015 | Kevin Rector

Posted on 06/11/2015 11:50:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In the most detailed explanation of the charges against six police officers in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray yet filed in court, prosecutors say the officers failed to belt the 25-year-old Baltimore man into the back of a police van, and lacked probable cause to arrest him in the first place..

But they provide no new information on the most serious charges against the officers — including second-degree depraved-heart murder and manslaughter — in the bills of particulars filed this week in Circuit Court.

The office of State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby filed the documents in response to motions by the officers' defense attorneys requesting more information on her reasons for filing the charges.

Gray died in April after suffering a severe spinal cord injury in police custody, according to police and prosecutors. But how he was injured remains unclear. His autopsy results have not been made public....

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; democrats; freddiegray; homicide; lawenforcement; marilynmosby; maryland; mosby
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1 posted on 06/11/2015 11:50:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tossed a multiple offender (like seemingly every day) in the paddy wagon for a trip downtown and forgot the seatbelt. Sure, that’s “depraved heart murder.”


2 posted on 06/11/2015 11:55:14 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His autopsy results have not been made public....

There's the rub.

3 posted on 06/11/2015 11:55:23 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The idiot Mosby has painted herself into a corner and is squirming about looking for some way out.


4 posted on 06/11/2015 11:57:15 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
prosecutors say the officers failed to belt the 25-year-old Baltimore man into the back of a police van, and lacked probable cause to arrest him in the first place..

A civil issue or safety issue? And?

The city gets sued and his family gets wealthy. And they're going to send the cops to some violent prison over that?

I don't think so.

5 posted on 06/11/2015 11:58:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: JennysCool
Tossed a multiple offender (like seemingly every day) in the paddy wagon for a trip downtown and forgot the seatbelt. Sure, that’s “depraved heart murder.”

Maybe not, but you don't "forget" to put a seatbelt on somebody who has their hands cuffed behind their back, and therefore can't protect themselves from much of anything.

That's criminal negligence at the very least. Especially when the 4-block trip lasts 40+ minutes.

Yep, they showed him alright...

6 posted on 06/11/2015 11:58:52 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon

Sigh. Enjoy the propaganda.


7 posted on 06/12/2015 12:00:02 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: sargon

But that’s not how long the trip took due to the fact there were apparently several stops. I don’t think anyone intentionally tried to kill the suspect. It’s not like they broke his neck in some brutal cop beat down.

I don’t see any of the cops being sent to prison over this with a fair jury, losing their jobs maybe. Of course getting a fair jury in our environment today, is questionable at best.


8 posted on 06/12/2015 12:09:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somewhere along the line we will probably hear that they were ordered at some time to stop belting people in


9 posted on 06/12/2015 12:10:46 AM PDT by GeronL
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Actually, this incident Is the first time I heard of a ‘paddy wagon’ having seatbelts.

None of them I have been in ever had any.

IIRC, the seat belts are a ‘new’ feature and available only on the latest vehicles(paddy wagons). That is to say, not all the paddy wagons in Baltimore have seat belts.

The same is probably true of most cities in the US.


10 posted on 06/12/2015 12:31:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: sargon

Oddly, Gray’s symptoms are identical to the symptoms of a heroin overdose.

How many years have we had paddy wagons and how many people have died from riding in one without a seat belt ?

How is it that other ‘detainees’ who were in the paddy wagon that day, that trip, weren’t similarly injured ?

Do you know why Mosby doesn’t want to release the autopsy report ?


11 posted on 06/12/2015 12:35:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

makes me wonder how many paddy wagons a city has


12 posted on 06/12/2015 1:10:32 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When in doubt... make it up as you go.


13 posted on 06/12/2015 2:05:17 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, how are the prosecutors doing on the pursuit of the record number of MURDERS in their city over the past month and a half?


14 posted on 06/12/2015 2:14:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: sargon; JennysCool

Hopefully evidence and proper adjudication will prevail.


15 posted on 06/12/2015 2:15:10 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: sargon

“Maybe not, but you don’t “forget” to put a seatbelt on somebody who has their hands cuffed behind their back, and therefore can’t protect themselves from much of anything.

That’s criminal negligence at the very least. Especially when the 4-block trip lasts 40+ minutes.”

Yup. Not to mention that he was requesting medical attention for nearly the entire time he was in custody (until he became unresponsive), and it took 40+ minutes for them to seek such medical attention for him.


16 posted on 06/12/2015 2:51:21 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: JennysCool
"paddy wagon" ? That's racist. Oh wait, Irish are white
Nevermind.
17 posted on 06/12/2015 3:35:11 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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Is it possible that a drugged-up criminal intent on injuring hisself smash his head on the inside of the wagon hard enough (repeated hits) to half-break his own neck??

Just asking.


18 posted on 06/12/2015 4:03:01 AM PDT by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am waiting for Mosby to charge herself. Reportedly, Mosby had her subordinate ask the police for enhanced enforcement at the exact high-crime intersection where Gray was arrested. Police brass passed along orders to street cops, including the idea that they needed “measurables” (i.e., arrests).

Before this came out, I wondered why police bothered to chase down and arrest Gray for possession of a relatively small “spring-assisted” knife, when the courts seem to let him go crime after crime. Now the answer is obvious: to run up stats for Ms. Mosby by making an easy arrest of a habitual offender.

Did Mosby set the police up on purpose, as part of a plan to campaign against police brutality and make her career?
She doesn’t seem that complex a thinker, though someone else might have prompted her to it. More likely, she lacks the experience to know that when you pressure police for “results”, they will use the tools they have.

Mosby now finds that she MUST prosecute the cops for false arrest and deliberate “depraved” misdeeds. She has a flagrant conflict of interest in convicting the officers of acting illegally, not in accordance with her orders. The six officers might be guilty, might not, but their case must be prosecuted by a disinterested party. Absent judicial corruption, Mosby and her department will be removed from the case.


19 posted on 06/12/2015 4:56:20 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What about the Government Leaders who implored the Police to crack down on Drug Dealers, like Freddy Grey. The Leaders urged Police to do more to tamp down on Crime.


20 posted on 06/12/2015 5:01:11 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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