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Jerry Brown turns on liberal environmentalists, rejects California fracking ban
wash times ^ | 6/3/15 | v richardson

Posted on 06/03/2015 5:02:38 AM PDT by bestintxas

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To: bestintxas
“He’s got three more years in office, and if he wants to be a climate leader, he’s going to have to complete the other side of the equation, which is dealing with oil and making sure we leave it in the ground.”

I suppose he thinks we should drive our solar and wind powered cars...

I wonder where this moron thinks we get the electricity to power electric cars?...Energy pulled out of the ground

21 posted on 06/03/2015 6:42:57 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: bestintxas

Brown is spastic....


22 posted on 06/03/2015 6:43:33 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to activate this tag line.)
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To: Sivad
California/Indiana

Considering the disparity in populations, that is likely, and the tree huggers on the coast still outnumber the liberty oriented people by a bunch.

23 posted on 06/03/2015 6:45:16 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: originalbuckeye

The Left believes that what they want to be true is necessarily true because they want it to be true. When you have no transcendant God that is where you end up.


24 posted on 06/03/2015 6:46:50 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Sivad

You could be right, but your media portrays whomever it is that fights energy production, from power plant construction to off-shore drilling, as the dominant voice in the state. I don’t think I’m the only person exogenous to CA who feels this way.

Adjusted for population base and just using proportions, I seriously doubt there’s more tree huggers in IN.


25 posted on 06/03/2015 6:48:20 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: bestintxas

They want us in the stone age once again.

Correction: They want YOU in the stone age,
themselves not so much.


26 posted on 06/03/2015 6:51:04 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bestintxas
... to allow a similar statewide ban of the revolutionary oil and gas drilling technique ...

Um, fracking has been used commercially since the fifties.

27 posted on 06/03/2015 6:54:20 AM PDT by glock rocks (My New Year resolution? 1920x1080 as always.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“...Even when a conservative issue wins at the polls it is immediately taken to court to be over ruled (and I still not understand how a constitutional amendment could be ruled unconstitutional.)...”

The same way “Shall not be infringed” and the like jive with gun control, or the 16th Amendment ‘negates’ the 4th, 5th and 13th.

Judicial oligarchy. When the trunk is diseased, it matters not the branches.


28 posted on 06/03/2015 7:05:12 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: bestintxas
The problem is that much of the technology used in fracking were originally developed in California in order to pump out the molasses-quality California crude oil found west and southwest of Bakersfield, CA. Banning fracking would unintentionally ban that gas/fluid injection technology, and the big oil companies (like Chevron, based in San Ramon, CA) would be upset to no end.
29 posted on 06/03/2015 7:06:56 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: bestintxas

He need money.


30 posted on 06/03/2015 7:41:23 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: glock rocks

“Um, fracking has been used commercially since the fifties.”

Yeah, but they lowered nitroglycerin in the well to frac the rock during that time.

New frac technologies, coupled with horizontal drilling, makes my top 4 of most important technological achievements I have witnessed during my +40 years as a petroleum engineer.


31 posted on 06/03/2015 8:18:07 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: RayChuang88

“The problem is that much of the technology used in fracking were originally developed in California in order to pump out the molasses-quality California crude oil found west and southwest of Bakersfield, CA. Banning fracking would unintentionally ban that gas/fluid injection technology, and the big oil companies (like Chevron, based in San Ramon, CA) would be upset to no end. “

actually, very little of the California crude is produced via fraccing. I can only think of the very low perm, high porosity diatomite Shell has at Belridge that requires this.

Most of the thick crude you are referring to that is produced in CA is due to steam injection, which begain by Getty at the Kern River field in the 60s, and is still a top producing field to this day.


32 posted on 06/03/2015 8:20:44 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: bestintxas
Actually, fracking applied a lot of the technology originally developed for the gas injection method Getty Oil used, but with a lot more modern methods. At least we're not injecting special detergent fluids like the Chinese are doing on some of their oilfields.

By the way, that highly viscous oil originally pumped out by Getty is so thick you have to heat it up to 140 °F. just to make it flow.

33 posted on 06/03/2015 8:27:30 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: umgud

Why hope after the crash, simple, nothing every stays the same. The socialist have has a long rung, but their policies do not (and can not work, because of human nature) and at some point it all falls apart.

Do you think after the crash the people will embrace more of the same policies that got them to that point?


34 posted on 06/03/2015 8:34:35 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: econjack

“your media”?

The left wing media in my state is no more
mine than the left wing media in your state
is yours.

Since you are willing to lump California
residents into one like-minded block why
should I allow you to handicap the population
aspect?


35 posted on 06/03/2015 10:07:25 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Do you think after the crash the people will embrace more of the same policies that got them to that point?

Yes, but to a point. I expect a lot of the freeloaders to go to greener pastures. Unfortunately, many of the producers will already have done the same.

The good news? Whoever is left and regardless of their makeup, there will not be enough money to finance all the socialist and utopian crap that killed us.

36 posted on 06/03/2015 10:24:19 AM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: Sivad
The left wing media in my state is no more mine than the left wing media in your state is yours.

Sorry. I thought you had enough brains to figure out what I meant by the statement. I actually was referring to the reporters who write the stories coming from your state.

Since you are willing to lump California residents into one like-minded block why should I allow you to handicap the population aspect?

Because it's the right thing to do. Read my statement again. I stated things as proportions simply because of your larger population base. Again, I foolishly assumed you understood how to adjust for differing sample sizes...my mistake.

37 posted on 06/03/2015 12:29:18 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: econjack

What you foolishly did in reality, Doc, is
to cast your lot with some of the less informed
here who post as if all Californians are like
minded. I, and the hundreds of other Californians
who frequent FR along with millions of other
conservatives are “residents” who frequently
get out-voted by the “majority of voters” in
this state. We conservative Californians are responsible
for what happens in this state to about the same
degree as you are responsible for what Obama and his
minions do on a national level.


38 posted on 06/03/2015 8:35:16 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: bestintxas

I wonder, does this Idiot who says “leave the Oil in the ground” use Gasoline, Plastics, Prescription Drugs, Eat Farm produced Foods and Heat / Air Condition his House?


39 posted on 06/03/2015 9:13:57 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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To: RayChuang88

“By the way, that highly viscous oil originally pumped out by Getty is so thick you have to heat it up to 140 °F. just to make it flow. “

What do you think steam does to the crude?


40 posted on 06/04/2015 5:24:17 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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