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U.S. Army Raising “Concerns” Over CMP Transfers
FPC Blog ^ | May 24, 2015 | Evan Gillespie

Posted on 05/24/2015 12:41:01 PM PDT by OK Sun

U.S. Representative Mike Rogers (R-Alabama) made headlines recently when he introduced an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2015 (H.R. 1735). The amendment allows for the transfer of surplus 1911A1 handguns to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) for sale to the general public.

Last week, in response, the U.S. army released a white paper voicing “concern” over this amendment and claimed that there would be “potential negative impacts on public safety from the large amount of semi-automatic and concealable pistols that will be released for public purchase.” These concerns included the traceability of the firearms after sale, and the applicability of the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Public safety concerns revolved around the fact that there is “no statutory requirement or record keeping obligation for CMP,” which could make it difficult for federal agencies to track some firearm transfers, once they are completed.

As John Richardson of No Lawyers – Only Guns and Money notes, though, the Civilian Marksmanship Program has stringent standards that must be met by an individual before they can acquire a firearm from this program. These firearms are not released to any person who inquires – they must be non-prohibited persons and meet CMP’s eligibility requirements. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at firearmspolicy.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alabama; army; banglist; cmp; guncontrol; marksmanship; mikerogers; secondamendment
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To: atomic_dog

Thanks, atomic_dog!

Time to call and write Army offices and place beacons on the Net for anyone searching. The civil service subversive must go.


61 posted on 05/24/2015 3:04:53 PM PDT by familyop
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog
"Someone needs to ask her in an official capacity what’s going on."

No! She'll cover up.


62 posted on 05/24/2015 3:06:23 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Lumper20

Remember, folks, in this time, ‘career’ means politician,
and not a blood and guts officer.


63 posted on 05/24/2015 3:11:28 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog

Contact another Army office as soon as possible (not her office), and from there, find out who to contact on the matter at hand. Here are some possibilities. There should be an officer in charge of each civil service office. Find out how to contact him or her. Be sure to include the info/properties file from the PDF with the name (Natalie Abt, etc.) and the article and file posted to the Huffington Post.

Contact Comrel
Address
Community Relations Division
HQDA, Office of the Chief, Public Affairs
1500 Army Pentagon, Room 1D470
Washington, D.C. 20310-1500
Email Comrel
usarmy.pentagon.hqda-ocpa.list.crd1@mail.mil
Fax: 703-614-3354

U.S. Army Public Affairs
Media Relations Division
Office of the Chief of Public Affairs
1500 Army Pentagon
Washington, DC 20310-1500

Civilian Marksmanship Program
1401 Commerce Blvd
Anniston, Alabama 36207
Phone: (256) 835-8455
Fax: (256) 835-3527
E-mail: custserve@thecmp.org


64 posted on 05/24/2015 3:21:24 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Radix
I am reminded of this, from The Storm of War, page 35, that happened in 1939 Britain during the Phoney War:

The national Labour MP Harold Nicolson recorded in his war diaries that the Ministry of Information censors had refused to publish the wording of a leaflet, of which two million copies had been dropped over Berlin, on the grounds that "we are not allowed to disclose information that might be of value to the enemy."

When the enemy is less dangerous to government than the governed, democracy cannot long last.

65 posted on 05/24/2015 3:21:30 PM PDT by sparklite2
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog

Re. “beacon,” follow my username link.


66 posted on 05/24/2015 3:23:20 PM PDT by familyop
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To: OK Sun

Gotta love the liberal fantasy land.
Oh, but what if the CMP treated 1911’s completely different than they have treated M1’s for the last 70 years. We need to be concerned that they will do that!


67 posted on 05/24/2015 3:29:04 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog

Make sure that any message has a comprehensive title/subject, is concise and to the point. Put yourself in the shoes of whoever reads it.

Army Chief Information Officer/G-6
cio-g6.stratcomm.inbox@mail.mil


68 posted on 05/24/2015 3:32:24 PM PDT by familyop
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog

For example, “Is Natalie Abt the spokesperson for the U.S. Army? Is she posing as spokeperson for the Army to the media?”


69 posted on 05/24/2015 3:34:37 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Domandred

Yeah, anybody who wants a 1911 can get a much better one anywhere else.


70 posted on 05/24/2015 3:37:52 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: OK Sun
"Natalie H Abt seems to work for the Assistant Secretary of the Army."

A "Ms." in one document from 2010--not an officer or enlisted person but civil service. Last I saw (over a decade ago, admittedly), a warrant officer would be a "Mrs." I've seen attitude problems with civil service employees before (re. pay issues that were straightened out by a chewing from a JAG officer). Reminder here that we don't know anything for sure about a specific person, yet, and that the Army will sort it out.


71 posted on 05/24/2015 3:50:30 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Woodman

“Since when has a military issue 1911 been considered concealable?”

Was just going to ask that myself, LOL


72 posted on 05/24/2015 3:51:20 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: BobL
Oh, so they do trace...

Not to worry, that may well be shut down soon just like the NSA program to snoop on our phone calls to grandma.

obligatory /s

73 posted on 05/24/2015 3:52:05 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: OK Sun; atomic_dog

Yes, civil service—not an officer or enlisted person. There’s no rank shown for the person in documents, but one shows a “Ms.”


74 posted on 05/24/2015 3:54:18 PM PDT by familyop
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To: elcid1970

“Not talking Desert Eagles here, just service grade pistols.”

Desert Eagles are well over a grand.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Desert-Eagle/Browse.aspx?Keywords=Desert+Eagle


75 posted on 05/24/2015 3:54:51 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: elcid1970
I remember issue M1911A1s as a tanker in the 1970’s; they were pretty loosey-goosie.

You're telling me! Those things were so worn they practically had to be wrapped in something to keep the rattling from breaking noise disipline.

76 posted on 05/24/2015 4:08:24 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Impy; OK Sun; Bender2; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ...

That’s a great idea. If the DoD doesn’t need the guns, the government should sell them, get money, and help more Americans defend themselves from criminals.


77 posted on 05/24/2015 4:11:05 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This is my big concern. Some of these military pistols have fired so many rounds through them that they are unserviceable.

The CMP fully inspects all the firearms they sell for safety and to guarantee parts are within spec. They also gauge the barrels for wear, and worn barrels are either replaced/swapped, or sold as worn out. I bought my service grade Garand and 1903A3 Springfield through the CMP and both were in fantastic shape and very accurate.
78 posted on 05/24/2015 4:13:21 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Bryanw92
I tried a new Colt Series 80 and could not believe that it was the same gun as the junk the military handed me.

You just could not shoot then and probably still can't.

79 posted on 05/24/2015 4:31:09 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: OK Sun

How many M1 garands and 03A3s have been used as murder weapons over the years I wonder? versus, say, tire irons or baseball bats.


80 posted on 05/24/2015 4:36:47 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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